Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Rails with trails
* Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com [2012-06-27 12:59 -0400]: But another popular kind of rail trail, a rail with trail, cannot be found in this manner. [snip] Does anyone have any ideas for tagging? The simplest would be something like rail_with_trail=yes or maybe railway=adjacent. Either of those would work. Between those two, I'm inclined toward railway=adjacent so the search would be something like highway=(path|footway|cycleway) and railway=(abandoned|adjacent). Another possibility would be to use rail_trail=yes, which would apply to any rail trail. It would be implied by a non-motor-vehicle highway= tag and railway=abandoned, but could always be specified to be unambiguous. ___ Talk-us mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals
Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Am 26.06.2012 16:55, schrieb Paul Johnson: It seems like tagging for the lowest, highest and default limits would be useful. What's the purpose of a lowest speed limit? I don't think it's useful, as we are still speaking about legal speed limits, while often lower practical speed limits are the limiting factor, and no router should assume a maximum time a particular vehicle needs, as there may be a traffic jam as well as ice on the road and so on. The default limit I see similar (if it's not the highest one, which it is in all cases I know and AFAIR have been reported in this thread, yet). regards Pete A lowest speed limit means that, under normal circumstances, traffic is supposed to go at least that fast, and someone going slower can be cited for obstructing traffic. It doesn't get enforced when heavy traffic, road construction, severe weather, or the like forces everyone to slow down. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:03 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: A lowest speed limit means that, under normal circumstances, traffic is supposed to go at least that fast, and someone going slower can be cited for obstructing traffic. It doesn't get enforced when heavy traffic, road construction, severe weather, or the like forces everyone to slow down. This is tagged with minspeed=* which hasn't been discussed here but I guess if the minimum speed limit varies along with the maximum, the same issues arise... Toby ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals
Am 28.06.2012 23:50, schrieb Toby Murray: On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:03 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: A lowest speed limit means that, under normal circumstances, traffic is supposed to go at least that fast, and someone going slower can be cited for obstructing traffic. It doesn't get enforced when heavy traffic, road construction, severe weather, or the like forces everyone to slow down. This is tagged with minspeed=* which hasn't been discussed here but I guess if the minimum speed limit varies along with the maximum, the same issues arise... There's a difference between minspeed and lowest speed limit, I would say. A usual motorway in Germany (Autobahn) has a minspeed of 61km/h (you must drive faster than 60), but of course that does not apply to situations with e.g. stop motion traffic. This is far different from the minimum possible maxspeed limit shown on a dynamic maxspeed signal, because there you are allowed to drive slower if the situation makes that necessary. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals
The lowest variable speed limit I have seen on a UK motorway is 40 mph, but that doesn't mean it can't go lower. I do not believe that there is a defined minimum on motorways, rather it is up to the discretion of the police, I'd they deem you are going to slowly they will escort you off. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 28/06/2012 22:59 Peter Wendorff wrote: Am 28.06.2012 23:50, schrieb Toby Murray: On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:03 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: A lowest speed limit means that, under normal circumstances, traffic is supposed to go at least that fast, and someone going slower can be cited for obstructing traffic. It doesn't get enforced when heavy traffic, road construction, severe weather, or the like forces everyone to slow down. This is tagged with minspeed=* which hasn't been discussed here but I guess if the minimum speed limit varies along with the maximum, the same issues arise... There's a difference between minspeed and lowest speed limit, I would say. A usual motorway in Germany (Autobahn) has a minspeed of 61km/h (you must drive faster than 60), but of course that does not apply to situations with e.g. stop motion traffic. This is far different from the minimum possible maxspeed limit shown on a dynamic maxspeed signal, because there you are allowed to drive slower if the situation makes that necessary. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list j...@jfeldredge.com http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Rails with trails
Hi, Some month ago I tried to start a proposal for rail-trails: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/rail_trail I startet it with 'rail_trail=yes', but on talk-page some are against this, because highway=cycleway/footway + railway=abandoned are enough. Now it propose only the possible rendering. P.S.: I think I can't send it to: [Talk-us] Am 28.06.2012, 15:51 Uhr, schrieb Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com: * Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com [2012-06-27 12:59 -0400]: But another popular kind of rail trail, a rail with trail, cannot be found in this manner. [snip] Does anyone have any ideas for tagging? The simplest would be something like rail_with_trail=yes or maybe railway=adjacent. Either of those would work. Between those two, I'm inclined toward railway=adjacent so the search would be something like highway=(path|footway|cycleway) and railway=(abandoned|adjacent). Another possibility would be to use rail_trail=yes, which would apply to any rail trail. It would be implied by a non-motor-vehicle highway= tag and railway=abandoned, but could always be specified to be unambiguous. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals
On Jun 28, 2012 2:04 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: A lowest speed limit means that, under normal circumstances, traffic is supposed to go at least that fast, and someone going slower can be cited for obstructing traffic. It doesn't get enforced when heavy traffic, road construction, severe weather, or the like forces everyone to slow down. No, thats a minimum speed. And we already have minspeed for that. I mean it would be useful to have an idea what the range of possible maxpseeds in a variable zone would be. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
