Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Dave, I agree for location=* tag and it should be used in every domain of knowledge in OSM since it is really a common tag. Regarding buried telecommunication cables, location=underground suits my needs. But my point was to know if communication=* is the best primary tag to map such cables.

Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 04/mar/2014 um 09:44 schrieb François Lacombe francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu: - communication=line, for submarines cables. I'd dispute that communication=line is only for submarine cables, looks like a much more generic tag, while as specific tag for submarine cables it is a

Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread François Lacombe
I definitely agree with you Martin. I said communication=line is for submarine cables since there are only submarine cables identified with it. But we should start mapping terrestrial cables when we see markers like me last weekend. But what should that generic tag be ? That's the question.

Re: [Tagging] wiki definition for man_made=works

2014-03-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-02-26 9:43 GMT+01:00 Georg Feddern o...@bavarianmallet.de: yes, that is the point of the thread opener: man_made=works does not make sense for one building only. I always tag man_made=works for the whole area of a work/factory complex of one operator (as one object). as there don't

Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 03/03/2014 22:13, François Lacombe wrote: I've found a dozen of markers in the country around my home, like this : http://www.infos-reseaux.com/photos/image/217-identification-telecom-trn It identifies terrestrial optical fibre cables going underground between cities in France. How should

Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:16 AM, François Lacombe francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu wrote: Are you going to map the markers only or the whole underground optical cables ? If you start to map underground features, you will quickly get complains about the mess of editing the map, especially in

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-04 Thread Richard Z.
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 07:35:02AM +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: Speaking as a chemist, the term sulfuric would imply strong acidity as in sulfuric acid. What you're looking for I believe is a term to indicate if the water smells bad or not. Many hot springs have a rotten egg smell lent to the

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-04 Thread SomeoneElse
(and in case anyone's not aware) sulfur would be sulphur in British English. Cheers, Andy ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-04 Thread Richard Z.
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 03:50:30PM +0900, Satoshi IIDA wrote: Hi, +1 to Tobias. I feel it needs clarification for this tag scope. I think it was leisure=hot_spring once, and switched to natural=hot_spring. exactly. So the main purpose of this scheme is now natural. Like to

Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread François Lacombe
Just consider we are talking about pipelines here, optical pipelines which are going out of any urban area most of the time. Indeed there's no point of mapping MAN networks in OSM since editing tools aren't able to distinguish such micro-data from the rest of the dataset yet. Like gas oil

Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 04/03/2014 14:05, François Lacombe wrote: Just consider we are talking about pipelines here, optical pipelines which are going out of any urban area most of the time. Along railways, motorways, high-voltage lines, riverbeds, roads, sewers, tunnels... Pretty much every type of right-of-way

Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread François Lacombe
2014-03-04 16:35 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org: On 04/03/2014 14:05, François Lacombe wrote: Just consider we are talking about pipelines here, optical pipelines which are going out of any urban area most of the time. Along railways, motorways, high-voltage lines, riverbeds,

Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 04/03/2014 17:15, François Lacombe wrote: 2014-03-04 16:35 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org mailto:j...@liotier.org: Along railways, motorways, high-voltage lines, riverbeds, roads, sewers, tunnels... Pretty much every type of right-of-way is used and the telecom

Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 05.03.2014 um 00:16 schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org: type=telecom type is reserved for relations, use something similar like pipeline:type instead Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-04 Thread Henning Scholland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 03.03.2014 23:45, schrieb Richard Z.: All together, I am not really sure if it is smart to split springs by temperature. not by temperature, which is very subjective as explained in the rationale. Where a spring is localy known as hot spring or

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-04 Thread Satoshi IIDA
So the idea is to have natural=hot_spring - the hole in earth where hot water is comming out I see :) So I prefer to switch the icon from Onsen icon ♨ to another ones. it ♨ maybe to use for leisure/amenity scheme. 2014-03-04 21:10 GMT+09:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 04,

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-04 Thread johnw
The onsen icon (♨) is commonly used all over Japan (of course), and is a great icon (a hot bath with steam rising out) to represent a place to get a hot natural bath vs a natural park's hot-spring. Onsen always means naturally sourced hot water as well, vs a bathhouse (amenity=spa? showers?),

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-04 Thread johnw
PS: the onsen icon (♨) is always for an amenity - a hotel or resort that offers a hot spring bath, or a purpose-built, stand alone structure (crude or ornate) just to provide a bathing experience - but it is not just a hole in the ground with a rope around it. It is always an amenity offered by