On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at wrote:
(...) But when we see nothing, it's plain wrong to add something to the
database.
But it's a common practice today in OSM. It seems you missed the long
discussions about noname=yes or oneway=no. Such tags don't say
here
2014-10-29 13:08 GMT+01:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
Btw, I'm also in favour of maxheight=unsigned
maybe unmarked would be more English than unsigned?
Alternatively it could also be default?
cheers,
Martin
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why would we treat maxheight different from maxspeed ?
I thought the consensus for maxspeed was to tag the maxspeed explicitly and
the reason in source:maxspeed
So why can't we fill in the default value for unsigned bridges explicitly ,
so e.g. maxheight=4 and add
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
So why can't we fill in the default value for unsigned bridges explicitly ,
so e.g. maxheight=4 and add source:maxheight=Country:default ?
I don't know the max height in my country. And probably most of the
contributors
Then it happens that a 3 m bridge that for some reason has no sign gets a 4 m
tag.
maxheight is different from maxspeed in some aspects.
Marc Gemis wrote on 2014-10-29 13:51:
why would we treat maxheight different from maxspeed ?
I thought the consensus for maxspeed was to tag the maxspeed
2014-10-29 13:51 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com:
why would we treat maxheight different from maxspeed ?
I thought the consensus for maxspeed was to tag the maxspeed explicitly
and the reason in source:maxspeed
So why can't we fill in the default value for unsigned bridges
2014-10-29 14:01 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org:
Then it happens that a 3 m bridge that for some reason has no sign gets a
4 m tag.
examples? What is some reason?
cheers,
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Hi,
Currently, le wiki ([1]) suggests that maxspeed has to specify the
unit knots when it's not km/h. But knot is the unit used worldwide
on waterways. Why should we add something obvious on all waterway
elements ? Could we suggest that the default unit for maxspeed on
waterways is knot and the
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 05:21:06PM +0100, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
On 28/10/2014, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:18:43AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2014-10-28 10:57 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com:
The assumption is that a large bay will
In Belgium the maximum height for a vehicle is 4m (on all roads, whether
there is a bridge or not). So without sign a bridge should allow vehicles
under the maximum height to pass.
There are exceptions, which requires a special permit (pubic transport).
Then the maximum height is 4.4m meters.
I
2014-10-29 14:40 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com:
Also bays with very
flat or deep geometry will result in disproportionately small areas so
mappers may feel compelled to do some ugly workarounds if the name of the
bay isn't shown as expected.
disproportionate to what? water
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote on 2014-10-29 14:05:
2014-10-29 14:01 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer:
Then it happens that a 3 m bridge that for some reason has no sign gets a 4
m tag.
examples? What is some reason?
- rural track never had sign posted
- neglected road, sign fallen off
- unsigned road
km/h is derived, at least with an integer multiple of seconds,
from SI units. mph and knots are not. I would prefer to keep
one default unit per tag, consistently, everything else leads
to confusion.
Pieren wrote on 2014-10-29 14:14:
Hi,
Currently, le wiki ([1]) suggests that maxspeed has to
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org wrote:
km/h is derived, at least with an integer multiple of seconds,
from SI units. mph and knots are not. I would prefer to keep
one default unit per tag, consistently, everything else leads
to confusion.
What is leading to
2014-10-29 14:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
2014-10-29 14:40 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com:
Also bays with very
flat or deep geometry will result in disproportionately small areas so
mappers may feel compelled to do some ugly workarounds if the name of
2014-10-29 14:07 GMT+00:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org wrote:
km/h is derived, at least with an integer multiple of seconds,
from SI units. mph and knots are not. I would prefer to keep
one default unit per tag, consistently,
On 29/10/2014 14:12, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
I don't know about other countries, but here in Finland the water maxspeed
signage is in km/h although knot is used for almost everything else.
In UK waterways, both MPH and knots are used. Usually MPH on canals and
knots on rivers, though even this
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Malcolm Herring
malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com wrote:
On 29/10/2014 14:12, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
I don't know about other countries, but here in Finland the water maxspeed
signage is in km/h although knot is used for almost everything else.
In UK waterways,
On 10/29/14 10:47 AM, Malcolm Herring wrote:
On 29/10/2014 14:12, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
I don't know about other countries, but here in Finland the water
maxspeed
signage is in km/h although knot is used for almost everything else.
In UK waterways, both MPH and knots are used. Usually MPH on
On 28/10/2014, Christoph Hormann chris_horm...@gmx.de wrote:
On Tuesday 28 October 2014, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
I admit I don't fully understand how your algorythm works. I can't
imagine how you reduce everything to nodes and still retain
information about orientation and curves. Can you
An example would be where the sign had fallen off, or been stolen by vandals.
On October 29, 2014 8:05:10 AM CDT, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-10-29 14:01 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org:
Then it happens that a 3 m bridge that for some reason has no sign
On 29/10/2014, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 05:21:06PM +0100, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
On 28/10/2014, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote:
well even if the issues were nonexistent, mapping the area of a bay seems
to me like mapping an artificially introduced
On 29/10/2014, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at wrote:
(...) But when we see nothing, it's plain wrong to add something to the
database.
But it's a common practice today in OSM. It seems you missed the long
discussions about
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 02:47:48PM +, Malcolm Herring wrote:
On 29/10/2014 14:12, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
I don't know about other countries, but here in Finland the water maxspeed
signage is in km/h although knot is used for almost everything else.
In UK waterways, both MPH and knots are
On 29/10/2014 19:48, Richard Z. wrote:
ouch. Luckily we don't map anything in UK vs US gallons or UK vs US
barrels or tons.. or do we?
US tons, certainly (and it has caught mappers out in the past when
they've been looking for rogue values to correct).
The UK uses (generally) metric
Hi,
On 10/29/2014 09:34 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
* The tag tourism=bed_and_breakfast is no longer rendered - please use
tourism=guest_house instead.
Well - it might be your decision what to render and what not, but you
shouldn't go so far as to request that people misrepresent reality in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dguest_house as currently
defined
fits private residence where a single bedroom is made available to
tourists.
It is even mentioned - ranging from purpose-built guest houses
to family-based BedBreakfast
2014-10-29 21:55 GMT+01:00 Frederik Ramm
Frederik,
The tagging and the wiki have been that way for many years.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bed_and_breakfast
I share your discomfort, since I think of a BB as a different thing
from a guesthouse. But over the years I've ended up using this tagging
since it's documented and appears
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Currently, le wiki ([1]) suggests that maxspeed has to specify the
unit knots when it's not km/h. But knot is the unit used worldwide
on waterways. Why should we add something obvious on all waterway
elements?
Except it
On 29 October 2014 20:59, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess it's not Matthijs who made this decision...
That's correct. See
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/695 for more
details.
-- Matthijs
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On Wednesday 29 October 2014, Dan S wrote:
The tagging and the wiki have been that way for many years.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bed_and_breakfast
Well - not exactly, this redirect as well as the removal of
tourism=bed_and_breakfast as an alternative from
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