[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Government offices

2016-02-14 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi all, Voting for the proposal for office=government is now open. The proposal also proposes to mark the alternatives amenity=public_building and office=administrative as 'discouraged'. The proposal can be found here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Government_offices

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting (reminder) - Jewellery shop

2016-02-14 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi all, Voting for the proposal to replace shop=jewelry by shop=jewellery is still open. The proposal can be found here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Jewellery_shop I would like to thank all voters in advance for their contribution. -- Matthijs

Re: [Tagging] Galleries versus art shops

2016-02-14 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 9 February 2016 at 00:20, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > What do you think, would it make sense to try to keep both shop=art > and tourism=gallery? Or should we discourage either of these options > in favour of the other? Or should we come up with new tags? Most people

Re: [Tagging] Galleries versus art shops

2016-02-14 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 15 February 2016 at 01:29, Max wrote: > I see two reasons why it would make sense: > > 1. the word gallery alone seems to cause so much confusion because of > its ambiguity. > 2. if we depreciate tourism=gallery and introduce > amenity=contemporary_art_gallery it

[Tagging] Confectionery shops

2016-02-14 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Currently, we have the following confectionery related tags: * shop=confectionery (12045 instances) * shop=chocolate (730 instances) * shop=pastry (708 instances) How should we tag a shop selling cakes? A shops selling croissants and cinnamon rolls? A shop focussed on chocolate, but

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting (reminder) - Jewellery shop

2016-02-14 Thread Hakuch
oh my god, I didn't recognize that this was a real proposal process and a voting already has started. I also love to care for more consistency in the data, but this will result in the straight opposite of consistency. With 20.000 against 200, and "Editors and data consumers only support the

Re: [Tagging] Galleries versus art shops

2016-02-14 Thread Warin
On 15/02/2016 11:35 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 15 February 2016 at 01:29, Max wrote: I see two reasons why it would make sense: 1. the word gallery alone seems to cause so much confusion because of its ambiguity. 2. if we depreciate tourism=gallery and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting (reminder) - Jewellery shop

2016-02-14 Thread Warin
If us_en is allowed once .. it may well become the dominate entry. Then OSM will have a few remaining tag using uk-en and these will then be subject to change to us-en. Fight it here, overcome it and it can be overcome again. I have nothing against other languages being used .. provided they

Re: [Tagging] Confectionery shops

2016-02-14 Thread Warin
On 15/02/2016 11:39 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Dear all, Currently, we have the following confectionery related tags: * shop=confectionery (12045 instances) * shop=chocolate (730 instances) * shop=pastry (708 instances) How should we tag a shop selling cakes? A shops selling croissants and

Re: [Tagging] Galleries versus art shops

2016-02-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 15.02.2016 um 00:55 schrieb Matthijs Melissen : > > Currently, basically nobody uses tourism=gallery to tag art museums > (even though the wiki specifies so), so I don't think there is a need > to change the tag to something like

Re: [Tagging] Confectionery shops

2016-02-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 15.02.2016 um 01:39 schrieb Matthijs Melissen : > > Should we preserve the shop=chocolate and shop=pastry tags, or should > we make them subtags of shop=confectionery (or shop=bakery)? having both, bakery and confectionery, seems to indicate

Re: [Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-14 Thread John Willis
I Hit send by accident. Javbw > On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:01 PM, John Willis wrote: > > > None of those tags convey the difference implied primary/tertiary/...track. > > The track grade scale and the sac scale both ...convey the degree or grade of the way, However track has

Re: [Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-14 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Feb 14, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > surface and width tags, as well as sac_scale None of those tags convey the difference implied primary/tertiary/...track. The track grade scale and the sac scale both

Re: [Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-14 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Feb 14, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: > > It's a path All non-motorways are roads for cars. Just add the width and surface and let's depreciate all the other values. primary/secondary/tertiary/unclassified/residential/service/track and have only

Re: [Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-14 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Feb 14, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > footway=hiking Footway=trail, as it can be used for many activites, including hiking. I would love to have a separate main key value for a trail, just like track. We differentiate between a gravel driveway and a

Re: [Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-14 Thread Andrew Errington
I disagree. If we use something specific like footway=hiking then that implies the path is only for hiking. It's a path. Its purpose is for whatever you want to do. highway=path perfectly encapsulates the idea "there is a path here". 'hiking' could be used as a tag on a route, which is a set

Re: [Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-14 Thread Warin
Sorry ... longer version highway=footway footway=hiking On 14/02/2016 7:47 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: I disagree. If we use something specific like footway=hiking then that implies the path is only for hiking. It's a path. Its purpose is for whatever you want to do. highway=path

Re: [Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-14 Thread Warin
On 14/02/2016 6:38 PM, John Willis wrote: Javbw On Feb 14, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: Changing the tags because you don't like the rendering is not the right approach. It would be better to lobby for a change of rendering, or use a different renderer.