Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

2020-02-03 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
>Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 08:59:40 +0100>>From: Martin Koppenhoefer >>>To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools">    >>Subject: Re: [Tagging] change >bicycle_parking=floor to surface>Message-ID: ><8aa7582f-13d3-486c-9c47-87ca8a1f8...@gmail.com>>Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

2020-02-03 Thread John Willis via Tagging
Okay, a lot of notes: Javbw > On Feb 3, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> > > I > surface=paved says nothing about if the bicycle can be secured and what too. Surface= tag is different from =surface value. Amenity=parking Parking=surface Surface=asphalt For cars.

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-03 Thread European Water Project
Hi Warin, amenity=fountain is the tag for the object itself and is a descriptive tag of the object itself independent of whether the water is potable or not. It should be used for fountains of historic, artistic or cultural importance. drinking_water = yes describes the drinkable quality of the

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-03 Thread Warin
On 3/2/20 7:00 pm, European Water Project wrote: Hi Warin, amenity=fountain is the tag for the object itself and is a descriptive tag of the object itself independent of whether the water is potable or not.  It should be used for fountains of historic, artistic or cultural importance. The

Re: [Tagging] Ski picnic room

2020-02-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 10:37, MARLIN LUKE wrote: "Picnic room" seems to be used by some ski resort in France, and I've seen > it on some tourism forums on ski threads so it might at least be understood > by english skiers. > Understood by those English speakers who have used that resort in

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mo., 3. Feb. 2020 um 09:59 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > The request is for a fountain of utilitarian purpose, not historic, > artistic or cultural. > How could we deny there is cultural or historic background for this fountain?

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

2020-02-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 3 feb 2020, alle ore 04:32, John Willis via Tagging > ha scritto: > > All of the other bicycle_parking values *imply an ability to lock your bike > to some object*, but =ground_slots and =floor (and =surface) imply *do not*, > because it is assumed that

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-03 Thread European Water Project
Hello Warin, Some fountains can be both historical, artistic or cultural AND dispense potable water. And these should be tagged amenity=fountain drinking_water = yes Best regards, Stuart On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 09:59 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 3/2/20 7:00 pm, European Water

Re: [Tagging] Ski picnic room

2020-02-03 Thread MARLIN LUKE
Thank you for the detailed mail. The tags I've used indeed doesn't exactly fit, as you figured out during your search. I couldn't find anything existing that would be a better match. "Picnic room" seems to be used by some ski resort in France, and I've seen it on some tourism forums on ski

Re: [Tagging] Ski picnic room

2020-02-03 Thread Ture Pålsson
2020-02-03 13:17 skrev Paul Allen: > [...] > > I'm hoping somebody will come up with a less generic name. Or a better name > than "indoor_food_consumption" that means the same thing. Failing that, > "dining_area" is the least bad name I've thought of so far. Or "eating_area" > might be

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

2020-02-03 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
That appears to be a "shrubbery" in British English, around a tree. It isn't wrong to use barrier=hedge, since it does provide a visual barrier and you will probably want to walk around it. But there is not a very well established way to micro-map very small areas of shrubs and bushes like this.

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

2020-02-03 Thread Florimond Berthoux
The bicycle_parking key is used for lots of things... > > buildings/sheds > > stands/racks > > A very poor key! > > > I think the key should be replaced. > I agree that buildings/sheds should not be used for this key, since we cannot precise the type of "rack" inside the shed/building. building

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-03 Thread António Madeira
Exactly my point. That's why I say the wiki is too ambiguous and restrictive. A practical example (more simple, but still historic and cultural one): https://www.diariocoimbra.pt/files/news/5d8411800e7e4.png If I map this with amenity=drinking_water any Portuguese who uses OSM for searching

Re: [Tagging] Ski picnic room

2020-02-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 12:34, Ture Pålsson wrote: > I am fairly sure that I have seen "picnic area" in some London museums. At > least the Science Museum uses the phrase on their web site. > They use the term "picnic area" but not "picnic room." As a google search on site:sciencemuseum.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

2020-02-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 12:42, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > That appears to be a "shrubbery" in British English, around a tree. For some values of "shrubbery." In some circles, a shrubbery lines a winding path through a garden, it's not just an area of shrubs. > It isn't wrong to use

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

2020-02-03 Thread pangoSE
On 2020-02-03 08:41, Warin wrote: On 3/2/20 6:32 pm, pang...@riseup.net wrote: Then the issue of securing the bicycle? bicycle_secure=lock,supervised,provided_lock,* Could you elaborate what each of these mean? I think bicycle_security is better I would like to improve on this key

Re: [Tagging] bicycle:lanes and foot:lanes on foot-cycle-paths

2020-02-03 Thread Volker Schmidt
I forgot to mention that you can look at the Mapillary photos to better understand the situation. On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 23:00, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Please have a look at way 41506101 >

Re: [Tagging] Ski picnic room

2020-02-03 Thread Warin
On 30/1/20 9:23 pm, MARLIN LUKE wrote: Noticed amenity=shelter. I initially thought about combining it with shelter-type:picnic, but it seems too... "open" for me. Like, not a complete building. I'll use this in the meantime There is shelter_type=weather_shelter that looks more enclosed.

[Tagging] bicycle:lanes and foot:lanes on foot-cycle-paths

2020-02-03 Thread Volker Schmidt
Please have a look at way 41506101 where I have used bicycle:lanes and foot:lanes to indicate the relative position of the foot/cycle lanes on a foot-cycle path with segregation. Is that a good approach to map this ? Are there better approaches to map

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

2020-02-03 Thread John Willis via Tagging
> On Feb 4, 2020, at 3:29 AM, Florimond Berthoux > wrote: > > I agree that buildings/sheds should not be used for this key, since we cannot > precise the type of "rack" inside the shed/building. I agree that “=shed” should not be a value. building=shed amenity=bicycle_parking