Re: [Tagging] admin, please remove this user from the list

2020-09-23 Thread Matthew Woehlke

On 23/09/2020 04.52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

It's been some weeks now that I get this kind of reply for every message
that I write to tagging. Can an admin please remove the address
jim...@hey.com from the list recipients? Thank you.


Same here; I sent a message to tagging-owner@OSM some while back, but 
apparently that had no effect. I wonder if anyone even monitors that 
address?


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Re: [Tagging] admin, please remove this user from the list

2020-09-23 Thread Volker Schmidt
Thanks, Marin for bringing this up. Same problem for me.


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On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 10:54, Martin Koppenhoefer 
wrote:

> It's been some weeks now that I get this kind of reply for every message
> that I write to tagging. Can an admin please remove the address
> jim...@hey.com from the list recipients? Thank you.
>
>
> *haystack-mail-home-inbound-postfix-0.localdomain rejected your message to
> the following email addresses:*
>
> jim...@hey.com
> The address you sent your message to wasn't found at the destination
> domain. It might be misspelled or it might not exist. Try to fix the
> problem by doing one or more of the following:
>
>1. Send the message again, but before you do, delete and retype the
>address. If your email program automatically suggests an address to use,
>don't select it.
>2. Clear the recipient AutoComplete cache in your email program by
>following the steps in this article: Status code 5.1.1
>. Then resend the
>message, but before you do, be sure to delete and retype the address.
>3. Contact the recipient by some other means (by phone, for example)
>to confirm you're using the right address. Ask them if they've set up an
>email forwarding rule that could be forwarding your message to an incorrect
>address.
>
>
>
>
>
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> >: Recipient address rejected: User unknown
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Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

2020-09-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 23. Sept. 2020 um 10:47 Uhr schrieb Jeroen Hoek :

> Granted, for footway=sidewalk renderers could omit the name.
>
> The sidepath:of:name approach has the benefit of more explicitly
> declaring a way a 'sidepath of' though, and works for cycleways,
> bus-lanes, etc. too.
>


it doesn't actually create a more explicit relation than does
footway=sidewalk name=foo
both ways of modeling it depend on comparison of the street name.
Both might fail when there are several streets with the same name, or when
there is a typo or other variation in one of the name (or sidepath:of:name)
tags.



>
> Mappers might also be rightly hesitant to name sidewalks explicitly,
> because it will make for many chaotic maps depending on the renderer.
> Tagging for the renderer is bad, but adopting an approach that causes
> widespread rendering issues isn't all that great either.
>


we have already discussed this, see your initial sentence. I believe that
renderers would adopt quickly if it became more widespread practice to add
names to sidewalks. There may be some issues during the transition time.
There are also significant issues from omitting the name (routing
instructions are typically not telling you the name of the roads on which
you are and which you have to follow, when you're on sidewalks or cycleways
along roads).

Cheers,
Martin
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[Tagging] admin, please remove this user from the list

2020-09-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
It's been some weeks now that I get this kind of reply for every message
that I write to tagging. Can an admin please remove the address
jim...@hey.com from the list recipients? Thank you.


*haystack-mail-home-inbound-postfix-0.localdomain rejected your message to
the following email addresses:*

jim...@hey.com
The address you sent your message to wasn't found at the destination
domain. It might be misspelled or it might not exist. Try to fix the
problem by doing one or more of the following:

   1. Send the message again, but before you do, delete and retype the
   address. If your email program automatically suggests an address to use,
   don't select it.
   2. Clear the recipient AutoComplete cache in your email program by
   following the steps in this article: Status code 5.1.1
   . Then resend the
   message, but before you do, be sure to delete and retype the address.
   3. Contact the recipient by some other means (by phone, for example) to
   confirm you're using the right address. Ask them if they've set up an email
   forwarding rule that could be forwarding your message to an incorrect
   address.





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Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

2020-09-23 Thread Jeroen Hoek
On 22-09-2020 23:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> renderers have all the necessary information to omit name for 
> footway=sidewalk. It is just a question of the style 

Granted, for footway=sidewalk renderers could omit the name.

The sidepath:of:name approach has the benefit of more explicitly
declaring a way a 'sidepath of' though, and works for cycleways,
bus-lanes, etc. too.

Mappers might also be rightly hesitant to name sidewalks explicitly,
because it will make for many chaotic maps depending on the renderer.
Tagging for the renderer is bad, but adopting an approach that causes
widespread rendering issues isn't all that great either.

I don't think these two approaches need exclude each other though.

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