Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Philip Barnes
On 28 January 2023 23:47:38 GMT, Peter Elderson wrote: >The mini-roundabout just adds priority on the MR to the general keep left >rule, that is my understanding. They are to give equal priority to all roads at a junction, usually where traffic flow would block traffic from side roads.

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Colin Smale
I was trying to offer a universal model that would accommodate both "true" roundabouts and mini-roundabouts. In the UK you are expected to make an effort to drive around the "dustbin lid" (painted circle) in the middle of the mini-roundabout, but that only makes sense for smaller vehicles.

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Volker Schmidt
The mm is because it's intended do describe water tubes and pipe threads, and not roads. That is why I have doubts using it for the mini-roundabout. On Sat, 28 Jan 2023, 09:20 Mark Reidel, wrote: > On Sat, 2023-01-28 at 00:53 +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > What I am after is tagging the

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Mark Reidel
On Sat, 2023-01-28 at 00:53 +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: > What I am after is tagging the dimension of mini-roundabouts. This seems > to be useful information for longer vehicles. The specific mini-roundabout > that triggered the question is this one, and it has a diameter of about > 12m, and,

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Mark Reidel
On Sat, 2023-01-28 at 09:44 +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: > The mm is because it's intended do describe water tubes and pipe threads, > and not roads. That is why I have doubts using it for the mini-roundabout. The Wiki-page for diameter explicitly mentions the use for turning_circle and

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread stevea
Using mm (millimeters) as a unit for this makes no sense. Meters are much better in my opinion. I understand water tubes and pipe threads might be well-stated in mm (for "household" and "everyday" use, not hydrology engineers and sewerage architects), but water tubes and pipe threads are not

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
I think the point was that the units are explicitly tagged in meters, whereas in other cases (like ele), the unit assumed to be meters and you can just put a number by itself. On Sat, Jan 28, 2023, 3:14 PM stevea wrote: > Using mm (millimeters) as a unit for this makes no sense. Meters are

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Peter Elderson
Op za 28 jan. 2023 om 23:38 schreef Colin Smale : > A form of roundabout common in the Netherlands has an inner ring which is > often distinctly coloured and slightly raised, thus making it clear that > traffic is intended to avoid it and use the outer ring, while keeping it > perfectly usable by

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 09:12:11PM +, Philip Barnes wrote: > Diameter implies there is something circular. The paint is often > round, not always, but most are just former T junctions or cross-roads > where there is nothing to measure the diameter of . Thats exactly the point. The

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Philip Barnes
On 28 January 2023 23:17:59 GMT, Peter Elderson wrote: >Op za 28 jan. 2023 om 23:38 schreef Colin Smale : > >> A form of roundabout common in the Netherlands has an inner ring which is >> often distinctly coloured and slightly raised, thus making it clear that >> traffic is intended to avoid

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Peter Elderson
The mini-roundabout just adds priority on the MR to the general keep left rule, that is my understanding. Peter Elderson > Op 29 jan. 2023 om 00:37 heeft Florian Lohoff het volgende > geschreven: > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 09:12:11PM +, Philip Barnes wrote: >> Diameter implies there

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Philip Barnes
Diameter implies there is something circular. The paint is often round, not always, but most are just former T junctions or cross-roads where there is nothing to measure the diameter of . Phil (trigpoint) On 25 January 2023 17:50:54 GMT, Volker Schmidt wrote: >Is there an established way to

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Philip Barnes
On 27 January 2023 21:29:49 GMT, Florian Lohoff wrote: >Hi, > >On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 09:25:32PM +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> I see that I was not precise with my question: I am after a way to tag the >> overall diameter of the round surface composed of the mini-roundabout road >> surface

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Colin Smale
Generalising for all roundabouts, I propose a model in which there are three diameters: D1) outer diameter, where the outer kerb is D2) "guide" inner diameter, the outer diameter of the inner ring intended to "discourage" traffic D3) inner diameter, where the inner kerb or wall is (not