Re: [Tagging] Building life cycle

2011-05-31 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/29 Mihkel Rämmel r...@hot.ee:
 If it is not right then please correct me.


you can also have a look at start_date which would be inauguration or
start of usage of the building.


 Would building=yes ruins=yes (3000 uses)  and  building=ruins (850
 uses) mean the same?  Which one would be better to use?


The standard is building=building-typology. I would not consider
ruins a typology, but a state, that's why another approach might be
better. building=xy, ruins=yes has as disadvantage that you have to
evaluate the ruins-tag to get it right, but personally I'd prefer
this.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Fwd: tower:type=lighting proposal

2011-05-31 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/27 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:46 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
 I propose the following new tag {{tag|tower:type|lighting}} as follows:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tag:man_made%3Dtowerdiff=nextoldid=639593

 Would this also include street lamps?
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dstreet_lamp


IMHO both are not really towers. I'd consider the tower John
proposes as a kind of lightning device that is not a tower (although
being cantilevered).

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-05-31 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.comwrote:


 Good idea, but not with etymology as the name.


-1


 You have to keep in mind, though, that this information is not strictly
 part of the geographical characteristics of the way/place,


I would even say that it has nothing to do with a geographic database. OSM
is NOT an encyclopedia. OSM is not a substitute of Wikipedia.

Pieren
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Re: [Tagging] Fwd: tower:type=lighting proposal

2011-05-31 Thread John Smith
On 1 June 2011 01:36, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
 IMHO both are not really towers. I'd consider the tower John
 proposes as a kind of lightning device that is not a tower (although
 being cantilevered).

Not my proposal...

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Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-05-31 Thread Steve Doerr

On 31/05/2011 17:21, Pieren wrote:
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Simone Saviolo 
simone.savi...@gmail.com mailto:simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote:



Good idea, but not with etymology as the name.


-1

You have to keep in mind, though, that this information is not
strictly part of the geographical characteristics of the way/place,


I would even say that it has nothing to do with a geographic database. 
OSM is NOT an encyclopedia. OSM is not a substitute of Wikipedia.


I think the intention was to record the specific words on the 
street-sign rather than general encyclopaedic information about the 
person who gave his name to the street. That could be legitimate for 
OSM, do you agree?


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[Tagging] tagging monasteries, convents and

2011-05-31 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
looking at the available data and in the wiki I'm currently missing
some tags for monasteries.

All I found is this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmonastery

which suggests to tag former monasteries as historic=monastery and the
monastery building as monastery=yes. If I see this right there is
currently no tag for a monastery as an institution/place, nor for some
of it's parts (the church will be tagged like any other church I
think, the garden could also be tagged with leisure=garden and maybe a
garden type, but the dorms and other specific places could merit some
dedicated tags).

I would like to distinguish between (and maybe more, let's see what
you can contribute).
monastery
convent
canonry
sanctuary
abbey
friary

(some might be attributes or subtags)

For the comunity that operates the place I will make a list in the
wiki so we can propose a set of typical values in unified form.
We could use the keys operator and operator_congregation (e.g.
Canons Regular of the Immaculate Conception) for these.

This would be tagged on a surrounding area (or multipolygon relation
or site relation). Any comments? Wikipages I missed? Tags in use?

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-05-31 Thread Peter Wendorff

Why not include a weblink to the reason for the name?
That could be a wikipedia-link to the page of the person the name comes 
from - or something else.


regards
Peter

Am 31.05.2011 23:58, schrieb Steve Doerr:

On 31/05/2011 17:21, Pieren wrote:
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Simone Saviolo 
simone.savi...@gmail.com mailto:simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote:



Good idea, but not with etymology as the name.


-1

You have to keep in mind, though, that this information is not
strictly part of the geographical characteristics of the way/place,


I would even say that it has nothing to do with a geographic 
database. OSM is NOT an encyclopedia. OSM is not a substitute of 
Wikipedia.


I think the intention was to record the specific words on the 
street-sign rather than general encyclopaedic information about the 
person who gave his name to the street. That could be legitimate for 
OSM, do you agree?


--
Steve


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