Re: [Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > There is really no point in grouping > different kinds of edits in the same set of changes, just because you > happen to do them at the same time. Really ?! Sometimes, I miss the "open" of OpenStreetMap... Pieren _

[Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread dies38061
(I am replying to the message which appears last in the longest stack in the web listing) Thanks, everyone, for your thoughts. I gave this some additional thought over the past day. My initial concern was from a provenance point-of-view; I work with semantic web technologies inside a corporat

Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings

2013-01-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
Philip Barnes wrote: > In the UK many premiere inns are converted office buildings. > > How does one go about mapping a row of terraced houses, where a single > building will contain 20 our so houses, often with a corner shop at > the end? I would have drawn each house to maintain numbering, is

Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings

2013-01-02 Thread Dudley Ibbett
I've not used this but if you're using JOSM this plugin might help. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Terracer Dudley From: p...@trigpoint.me.uk To: tagging@openstreetmap.org CC: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:25:47 + Subject: Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings In the

Re: [Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/1/2 Serge Wroclawski : > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Andre Engels wrote: Secondly, any changeset can have multiple sources so adding the source tag to a changeset is not flexible enough. >>> >>> We use semicolons for all tags as a separator. >> >> But it's less precise > > Then

Re: [Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread SomeoneElse
Serge Wroclawski wrote: There are many people (myself included) who believe that source /on objects/ is not useful, and most OSMers have moved away from using it, and toward source on changesets. [citation needed] So then what do we do? We could have a source tag for every tag... source:cuis

Re: [Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Andre Engels wrote: >>> Secondly, any changeset can have multiple sources so adding the source tag >>> to a changeset is not flexible enough. >> >> We use semicolons for all tags as a separator. > > But it's less precise Then you'd make a new changeset. It's the s

Re: [Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread Andre Engels
>> Secondly, any changeset can have multiple sources so adding the source tag >> to a changeset is not flexible enough. > > We use semicolons for all tags as a separator. But it's less precise. Recently I had made a survey, and one of the things I found was a new road. So I added that. Close to it

Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings

2013-01-02 Thread St Niklaas
Hi All, I choose not to make them as multipolygon, but drew the condo's ontop. > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > > Subject: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings Maybe a bit late, I struggled with this building some time ago and even asked around. But after this t

Re: [Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Chris Hill wrote: > On 02/01/13 12:50, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: > Whoever told you that is wrong, not that that is unusual on mailing lists. There are many people (myself included) who believe that source /on objects/ is not useful, and most OSMers have moved

Re: [Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread Dave F.
On 02/01/2013 12:50, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: I have been told ( on the talk-US email list ) that use of {{key|source}} on objects has been deprecated for years and that such information is only of historical interest and its use should be restricted to changesets. This is not reflected i

Re: [Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread Chris Hill
On 02/01/13 12:50, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: I have been told ( on the talk-US email list ) that use of {{key|source}} on objects has been deprecated for years and that such information is only of historical interest and its use should be restricted to changesets. This is not reflected in

Re: [Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread Tobias Knerr
> I have been told ( on the talk-US email list ) that use of > {{key|source}} on objects has been deprecated for years and that > such information is only of historical interest and its use should > be restricted to changesets. This is not reflected in anything I > can find on the wiki, and I've d

[Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread dies38061
I have been told ( on the talk-US email list ) that use of {{key|source}} on objects has been deprecated for years and that such information is only of historical interest and its use should be restricted to changesets. This is not reflected in anything I can find on the wiki, and I've done an

[Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread dies38061
I have been told ( on the talk-US email list ) that use of {{key|source}} on objects has been deprecated for years and that such information is only of historical interest and its use should be restricted to changesets.  This is not reflected in anything I can find on the wiki, and I've done an inc

Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings

2013-01-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/1/2 Philip Barnes : > In the UK many premiere inns are converted office buildings. yes, offices don't have a lot of requirements, also depending on the intended standard (e.g. if you need air conditioning but you don't want to see it, and a certain floor height, you might get problems, but i

Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings

2013-01-02 Thread Philip Barnes
In the UK many premiere inns are converted office buildings. How does one go about mapping a row of terraced houses, where a single building will contain 20 our so houses, often with a corner shop at the end? I would have drawn each house to maintain numbering, is that the correct way? Phil --

Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings

2013-01-02 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/1/2 Martin Koppenhoefer > 2013/1/2 Simone Saviolo : > > What you are trying to tag is the > > *use* of the building, and not a property of the building per se. Unless > > it's a mall, a retail store's interior is not structurally different > from an > > office space or apartments - it could

Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings

2013-01-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/1/2 Simone Saviolo : > IMO, the question is conceptually wrong. +1 > What you are trying to tag is the > *use* of the building, and not a property of the building per se. Unless > it's a mall, a retail store's interior is not structurally different from an > office space or apartments - it

Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings

2013-01-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/1/1 Svavar Kjarrval : > How does one tag buildings which are both commercial and residential? > There are two main situations I'm thinking of: > 1) The part which is residential is besides the part which is > commercial, but they do have the same housenumber. Do I separate the > commercial par

Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings

2013-01-02 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/1/1 Svavar Kjarrval > That's, of course, possible. The question was what value should be in the > building tag in the building polygon. Of course I'd like to implement the > level of detail you suggest but it doesn't answer the original question. > IMO, the question is conceptually wrong.