If I am not mistaken, the French were the first to have roaundabouts in
quantities, but they all had the priority-to-the-right rule at the time,
i.e. the priority was to the traffic entering the circle. See
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrefour_giratoire
This was one of the particularities you nee
Am I to assume that if nobody actually can remember what an abbreviation
means, it's appropriate to go with it anyway? Example: I. X. L., Okfuskee
County, Oklahoma: I can't find an expansion of this town's name, and
suffice to say the town's population is small enough with a high enough
turnover
IMHO I think that the main idea in the concept of "roundabout" is that
the center of the cycle (which may not be a perfect circle, sometimes
not even an ellipse) has right of way over entering traffic. That's
why I find it weird when:
- Croatian (and perhaps some other) authorities apply the rounda
We have a bunch of roundabouts and traffic circles here in NJ. Today I learned
that roundabouts and traffic circles are not necessarily the same thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout
- no traffic signals controlling access to the roundabout
- circling traffic in the roundabout has right
Wonder if we're talking regional differences. The south of France is known
to follow the Vienna Convention on Traffic (traffic in the circle yields to
traffic entering from the right), and the US and Canada make no signage
differences between a roundabout and a traffic circle. For navigation
purp
Wow, really? Got a photo?
On Jun 17, 2014 4:22 PM, "Clifford Snow" wrote:
> I've seen one actual mini round about in Seattle and one in Mount Vernon.
> Certainly there are numerous traffic calming islands incorrectly tagged as
> mini runabouts.
> On Jun 17, 2014 1:10 PM, "Paul Johnson" wrote:
>
No. One of the characteristics of a roundabout is that you have precedence
when you are in it. In this case there is a main road that has precedence
over the two minor roads.
If you want to turn left (looking in the direction of the photo) you have
to yield to oncoming traffic coming from the oppos
I've seen one actual mini round about in Seattle and one in Mount Vernon.
Certainly there are numerous traffic calming islands incorrectly tagged as
mini runabouts.
On Jun 17, 2014 1:10 PM, "Paul Johnson" wrote:
> Not as rare as you think, and growing more common. I go through 2 or 3
> roundabou
Maxspeed is not the only issue. See my previous message:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-June/017860.html
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Osmand and pretty much any other nav software worth it's salt already
> interprets maxspeed (though I wish minspe
Osmand and pretty much any other nav software worth it's salt already
interprets maxspeed (though I wish minspeed was also factored in more
often).
On Jun 17, 2014 4:25 AM, "Philip Barnes" wrote:
> I disagree with just using a number, the tags are there to indicate that
> the mapper had interpret
This was my thoughts against proposing zone tagging for Oregon speed
limits.
On Jun 17, 2014 4:10 AM, "Andrew Shadura" wrote:
> Both "maxspeed=:" and "maxspeed=" are
> evil, as we need to have a separate DB for those zonal limits. Please, just
> use maxspeed=.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Andrew
>
>
It's certainly not a mini-roundabout, because the centre piece is not
intended to be traversed by vehicles (see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmini_roundabout)
On 17 June 2014 22:43, Tod Fitch wrote:
> How would you tag this intersection in Mountain View, California?
>
>
> htt
I'd call it a full blown roundabout, since you're still expected to go
around it to the right in order to go left.
On Jun 17, 2014 3:43 PM, "Tod Fitch" wrote:
> How would you tag this intersection in Mountain View, California?
>
>
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mountain+View,+CA/@37.387343,-
How would you tag this intersection in Mountain View, California?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mountain+View,+CA/@37.387343,-122.080352,3a,89.9y,118.3h,70.82t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sHblffm0KZ7pzUXLakrlBQw!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x808fb7495bec0189:0x7c17d44a466baf9b
Should it be tagged as traffic_calming
At least one roundabout in Portland is actually square.
On Jun 13, 2014 3:15 PM, "Martin Koppenhoefer"
wrote:
>
>
> > Am 13/giu/2014 um 18:28 schrieb Clay Smalley :
> >
> > Out of curiosity, what are others' criteria for a roundabout?
>
>
> priority for the inner traffic is the main
>
> "circular
Arc du Triumph?
On Jun 17, 2014 8:32 AM, "Pieren" wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Philip Barnes
> wrote:
>
> > This roundabout originally had no lights, but they were added with the
> > ring road.
>
> Interesting. Now you get the disadvantages of both systems : you have
> the unnecessa
Not as rare as you think, and growing more common. I go through 2 or 3
roundabouts regularly. The US official definitions defined in the MUTCD
are that roundabouts are uncontrolled or have yield signs entering, traffic
circles have stop signs. Neither are signal controlled in the MUTCD. We
do n
* Martin Koppenhoefer [2014-06-17 16:43 +0200]:
> you can find big roundabouts with traffic lights in most of the big
> European cities, another reason (besides the controlling the motorized
> traffic) is to let pedestrians (and sometimes cyclists) cross.
I know of a traffic circle (here: http://
2014-06-17 16:29 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis :
> There is a similar situation near Geel, Belgium. First they constructed
> several roundabouts along the R14, then they turned them back to regular
> crossings
> Only the roundabout with the N19 is kept at the moment, but there they
> placed traffic signals
There is a similar situation near Geel, Belgium. First they constructed
several roundabouts along the R14, then they turned them back to regular
crossings
Only the roundabout with the N19 is kept at the moment, but there they
placed traffic signals (http://osm.org/go/0ErQgoDk--?m=&relation=1263541
At a guess, "door=opening" means that there is an open doorway, with no door
present to close it off.
On June 17, 2014 8:12:49 AM CDT, Michael Maier
wrote:
>On 17/06/14 14:28, Pieren wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
>> mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
2014-06-17 14:28 GMT+02:00 Pieren :
> My suggestion therefor is to be more explicit with the key identifiers,
>> e.g.
>> * door_type (or door:type) for hinged / sliding / revolving / ... (still
>> this is somehow ambiguous, because "type" might also be interpreted as
>> "glass door", "wooden door
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Philip Barnes wrote:
> This roundabout originally had no lights, but they were added with the
> ring road.
Interesting. Now you get the disadvantages of both systems : you have
the unnecessary waitings on red lights and you use a maximum of land
space for a junct
On 17/06/14 14:28, Pieren wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> My suggestion therefor is to be more explicit with the key
> identifiers, e.g.
> * door_type (or door:type) for hinged / sliding / revolving / ...
>
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> My suggestion therefor is to be more explicit with the key identifiers,
> e.g.
> * door_type (or door:type) for hinged / sliding / revolving / ... (still
> this is somehow ambiguous, because "type" might also be interpreted as
> "gl
On 6/17/14 8:24 AM, SomeoneElse wrote:
>
> * I've yet to see a bicycle router enforce the "(pedalling) furiously"
> implications of
> http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/10-11/89#pb3-l1g18 , for
> example!
i think there's a lot of interest in pedestrian and cycling routing,
but it still has a
Andrew Shadura wrote:
Both "maxspeed=:" and "maxspeed="
are evil, as we need to have a separate DB for those zonal limits.
Please, just use maxspeed=.
Any router that deals with more than one type of traffic will need to do
that anyway, as many places have different limits that apply to c
There are several differences in my view:
1. When viewing the map offline, the user wants to see only rural roads
when zooming out really far.
2. If you don't have maxspeed for a particular way, a clever app that knows
typical speeds for each type of way in each country can make a more
educated gue
Hello,
On 17 June 2014 11:24, Philip Barnes wrote:
> I disagree with just using a number, the tags are there to indicate that the
> mapper had interpreted the speed limit from the type of road.
> Should the limits change they make finding the limits that require changes
> easier.
How do users fi
Hello,
On 17 June 2014 13:36, Richard Welty wrote:
> On 6/17/14 5:24 AM, Philip Barnes wrote:
>> The number should be tagged, and I would not expect a data consumer to use
>> maxspeed tags, they are useful for validation.
> there are any number of reasons why a consumer might use a
> maxspeed t
On 6/17/14 5:24 AM, Philip Barnes wrote:
> The number should be tagged, and I would not expect a data consumer to use
> maxspeed tags, they are useful for validation.
>
there are any number of reasons why a consumer might use a
maxspeed tag, the most obvious of them being a routing engine
attempti
I disagree with just using a number, the tags are there to indicate that the
mapper had interpreted the speed limit from the type of road.
Should the limits change they make finding the limits that require changes
easier.
The number should be tagged, and I would not expect a data consumer to use
2014-06-17 11:09 GMT+02:00 Andrew Shadura :
> Both "maxspeed=:" and "maxspeed=" are
> evil, as we need to have a separate DB for those zonal limits. Please, just
> use maxspeed=.
I see this similarly, use maxspeed=number and source:maxspeed (to show
where the limit comes from), e.g.
http://tag
Am 17.06.2014 11:09, schrieb Andrew Shadura:
>
> Both "maxspeed=:" and "maxspeed="
> are evil, as we need to have a separate DB for those zonal limits.
> Please, just use maxspeed=.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Andrew
>
As far as I understand it, there is a difference between
"maxspeed=:" and "maxspeed=nu
Both "maxspeed=:" and "maxspeed=" are
evil, as we need to have a separate DB for those zonal limits. Please, just
use maxspeed=.
--
Cheers,
Andrew
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On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Fernando Trebien
wrote:
> For several applications, such as navigation software, a distinction
> would be very interesting, allowing the display of rural primaries and
> secondaries when zooming out, a more accurate speed guess when the
> maxspeed tag is missing (
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