On Wednesday 29 October 2014, Dan S wrote:
>
> The tagging and the wiki have been that way for many years.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bed_and_breakfast
Well - not exactly, this redirect as well as the removal of
tourism=bed_and_breakfast as an alternative from
http://wiki.openstreetmap
On 29 October 2014 20:59, Dan S wrote:
> I guess it's not Matthijs who made this decision...
That's correct. See
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/695 for more
details.
-- Matthijs
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Pieren wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Currently, le wiki ([1]) suggests that maxspeed has to specify the
> unit "knots" when it's not km/h. But "knot" is the unit used worldwide
> on waterways. Why should we add something obvious on all waterway
> elements?
Except it totally
Frederik,
The tagging and the wiki have been that way for many years.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bed_and_breakfast
I share your discomfort, since I think of a B&B as a different thing
from a guesthouse. But over the years I've ended up using this tagging
since it's documented and appears
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dguest_house as currently
defined
fits "private residence where a single bedroom is made available to
tourists".
It is even mentioned - "ranging from purpose-built guest houses
to family-based Bed&Breakfast"
2014-10-29 21:55 GMT+01:00 Frederik Ramm
Hi,
On 10/29/2014 09:34 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> * The tag tourism=bed_and_breakfast is no longer rendered - please use
> tourism=guest_house instead.
Well - it might be your decision what to render and what not, but you
shouldn't go so far as to request that people misrepresent reality in
On 29/10/2014 19:48, Richard Z. wrote:
ouch. Luckily we don't map anything in UK vs US gallons or UK vs US
barrels or tons.. or do we?
US tons, certainly (and it has caught mappers out in the past when
they've been looking for rogue values to correct).
The UK uses (generally) metric measures
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 02:47:48PM +, Malcolm Herring wrote:
> On 29/10/2014 14:12, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> >I don't know about other countries, but here in Finland the water maxspeed
> >signage is in km/h although knot is used for almost everything else.
>
> In UK waterways, both MPH and knots
On 29/10/2014, Pieren wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
>
>> (...) But when we see nothing, it's plain wrong to add something to the
>> database.
>
> But it's a common practice today in OSM. It seems you missed the long
> discussions about "noname=yes" or "oneway
On 29/10/2014, Richard Z. wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 05:21:06PM +0100, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
>> On 28/10/2014, Richard Z. wrote:
> well even if the issues were nonexistent, mapping the area of a bay seems
> to me like mapping an artificially introduced concept for which there is
> very l
An example would be where the sign had fallen off, or been stolen by vandals.
On October 29, 2014 8:05:10 AM CDT, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
>2014-10-29 14:01 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer :
>
>> Then it happens that a 3 m bridge that for some reason has no sign
>gets a
>> 4 m tag.
>
>
>
>
>examples? W
On 28/10/2014, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 October 2014, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
>> I admit I don't fully understand how your algorythm works. I can't
>> imagine how you reduce everything to nodes and still retain
>> information about orientation and curves. Can you change your
>> re
On 10/29/14 10:47 AM, Malcolm Herring wrote:
On 29/10/2014 14:12, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
I don't know about other countries, but here in Finland the water
maxspeed
signage is in km/h although knot is used for almost everything else.
In UK waterways, both MPH and knots are used. Usually MPH on c
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Malcolm Herring
wrote:
> On 29/10/2014 14:12, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
>>
>> I don't know about other countries, but here in Finland the water maxspeed
>> signage is in km/h although knot is used for almost everything else.
> In UK waterways, both MPH and knots are use
On 29/10/2014 14:12, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
I don't know about other countries, but here in Finland the water maxspeed
signage is in km/h although knot is used for almost everything else.
In UK waterways, both MPH and knots are used. Usually MPH on canals and
knots on rivers, though even this ca
2014-10-29 14:07 GMT+00:00 Pieren :
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
>> km/h is derived, at least with an integer multiple of seconds,
>> from SI units. mph and knots are not. I would prefer to keep
>> one default unit per tag, consistently, everything else leads
>> to confusi
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Pieren wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
> > km/h is derived, at least with an integer multiple of seconds,
> > from SI units. mph and knots are not. I would prefer to keep
> > one default unit per tag, consistently, everything else leads
> > to con
2014-10-29 14:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
>
> 2014-10-29 14:40 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. :
>
>> Also bays with very
>> flat or deep geometry will result in disproportionately small areas so
>> mappers may feel compelled to do some ugly workarounds if the name of the
>> bay isn't shown as expecte
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
> km/h is derived, at least with an integer multiple of seconds,
> from SI units. mph and knots are not. I would prefer to keep
> one default unit per tag, consistently, everything else leads
> to confusion.
What is leading to confusion is to su
km/h is derived, at least with an integer multiple of seconds,
from SI units. mph and knots are not. I would prefer to keep
one default unit per tag, consistently, everything else leads
to confusion.
Pieren wrote on 2014-10-29 14:14:
Hi,
Currently, le wiki ([1]) suggests that maxspeed has to sp
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote on 2014-10-29 14:05:
2014-10-29 14:01 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer:
Then it happens that a 3 m bridge that for some reason has no sign gets a 4
m tag.
examples? What is "some reason"?
- rural track never had sign posted
- neglected road, sign fallen off
- unsigned road
2014-10-29 14:40 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. :
> Also bays with very
> flat or deep geometry will result in disproportionately small areas so
> mappers may feel compelled to do some ugly workarounds if the name of the
> bay isn't shown as expected.
>
disproportionate to what? water depth really doesn'
In Belgium the maximum height for a vehicle is 4m (on all roads, whether
there is a bridge or not). So without sign a bridge should allow vehicles
under the maximum height to pass.
There are exceptions, which requires a special permit (pubic transport).
Then the maximum height is 4.4m meters.
I ass
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 05:21:06PM +0100, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
> On 28/10/2014, Richard Z. wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:18:43AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >> 2014-10-28 10:57 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. :
> >>
> >> The assumption is that a large bay will typically be more important
Hi,
Currently, le wiki ([1]) suggests that maxspeed has to specify the
unit "knots" when it's not km/h. But "knot" is the unit used worldwide
on waterways. Why should we add something obvious on all waterway
elements ? Could we suggest that the default unit for maxspeed on
waterways is "knot" and
2014-10-29 14:01 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer :
> Then it happens that a 3 m bridge that for some reason has no sign gets a
> 4 m tag.
examples? What is "some reason"?
cheers,
Martin
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2014-10-29 13:51 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :
> why would we treat maxheight different from maxspeed ?
>
> I thought the consensus for maxspeed was to tag the maxspeed explicitly
> and the "reason" in source:maxspeed
>
> So why can't we fill in the default value for unsigned bridges explicitly
> , so e.
Then it happens that a 3 m bridge that for some reason has no sign gets a 4 m
tag.
maxheight is different from maxspeed in some aspects.
Marc Gemis wrote on 2014-10-29 13:51:
why would we treat maxheight different from maxspeed ?
I thought the consensus for maxspeed was to tag the maxspeed ex
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Marc Gemis wrote:
> So why can't we fill in the default value for unsigned bridges explicitly ,
> so e.g. maxheight=4 and add source:maxheight=:default ?
I don't know the max height in my country. And probably most of the
contributors don't. So the simple "maxhei
why would we treat maxheight different from maxspeed ?
I thought the consensus for maxspeed was to tag the maxspeed explicitly and
the "reason" in source:maxspeed
So why can't we fill in the default value for unsigned bridges explicitly ,
so e.g. maxheight=4 and add source:maxheight=:default ?
2014-10-29 13:08 GMT+01:00 Pieren :
> Btw, I'm also in favour of "maxheight=unsigned"
maybe "unmarked" would be more English than "unsigned"?
Alternatively it could also be "default"?
cheers,
Martin
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
> (...) But when we see nothing, it's plain wrong to add something to the
> database.
But it's a common practice today in OSM. It seems you missed the long
discussions about "noname=yes" or "oneway=no". Such tags don't say
"here is noth
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