"where you want renderers to display arete signatures" - Tagging for
renderer/geocoder
is a poor idea.
Anyway, way would be splitted both with [natural=arete] and [natural=ridge;
ridge=arete].
2014-11-06 7:02 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann :
> On 05.11.2014 12:23, Richard Z. wrote:
> > Another re
"This doesn't matter in this particular case, because natural=ridge and
natural=arete were approved at the same time."
It is about futureproof solution - new values may appear and break existing
data consumers. Adding subtags would not cause problems like this.
"That's why we have a wiki with de
On 05.11.2014 12:23, Richard Z. wrote:
> Another reason I don't like current arete/ridge state is that some ridges are
> very long - and they may be partially arete and ridge in different segments.
> Having a way that is tagged partially as natural=ridge and partially as
> natural=arete seems like
On 05.11.2014 07:19, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> And it is not just because with the second solution new values
> for main tag will quickly appear (see building=*).
This doesn't matter in this particular case, because natural=ridge and
natural=arete were approved at the same time.
> With second
>
On 05.11.2014 10:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> arguably it is not too late, there are only 450 uses of arete by now (and
> 17K+ ridges).
450 uses are quite a lot for a feature that is constantly ignored by renderers.
For the same reason, I suppose that some of the 17K+ ridges were created by
On 05.11.2014 10:28, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> there is a subtle difference, in that it is very common in OSM to trace from
> aerial imagery without any survey, and in these cases you obviously won't be
> able to enter names. Therefor streets without names in OSM but with names in
> the real wor
Hi Martin and all,
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2014-10-18 23:20 GMT+02:00 Konstantin Karapetyan :
>
>> I have already corrected the proposal from man_made to amenity following
>> the suggestion at
>> https://help.openstreetmap.org/qu
Mateusz: "arête" is usually spelled "arete" in my experience (reading
climbing websites).
I don't like natural=arete much, partly for the reasons mateusz outlines,
and partly because of ambiguity in the meaning of the term. My familiarity
with the term comes from being a mountaineer in western Can
2014-11-05 12:23 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. :
> after two years in the wiki where it was marked as approved and active it
> would not appear as a great idea to declare the vote for invalid based on
> nitpicking formalities, how many votes were missing for approval?
>
it was 50% missing (5 people)
A
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 10:01:47AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2014-11-04 22:56 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann :
>
> > This discussion comes late. Both natural=ridge and natural=arete have been
> > approved by voting just 2 years ago.
> >
>
>
> arguably it is not too late, there are only 4
2014-11-05 12:11 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. :
> how is that clean, Lake Eerie is a lake, Caspian sea is a sea, Baikal
> lake...
>
Yes, Caspian Sea should be mapped as coastline, Baikal and Eerie not. If
they aren't like this at the moment, then it might change (there is some
fluctuation I have noticed
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 11:29:04AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2014-11-05 11:03 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. :
>
> > > Would is be possible to make natural=coastline usage more clear on
> > > place=island wiki page?
> >
> > or - would it be possible to make coastline work for lakes as well?
> >
>
2014-11-05 11:03 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. :
> > Would is be possible to make natural=coastline usage more clear on
> > place=island wiki page?
>
> or - would it be possible to make coastline work for lakes as well?
>
I recall from older discussions that mappers prefer to keep the semantics
clean. If
Matthijs Melissen wrote on 2014-11-05 01:27:
> I might have missed it in the discussion, but why not simply
> landuse=governmental?
Well that was among my first ideas, hence the subject of this thread.
We are currently collecting the arguments for each potential tags on the
Talk page, feel free t
2014-11-05 2:28 GMT+01:00 johnw :
> To me, governmental is more legislative.
>
governments are typically divided into a legislative and an executive
branch, plus the judiciary to control them.
> Civic implies for the citizens. Perhaps it's just a style choice, but
> it's my preference, and g
2014-11-05 1:23 GMT+01:00 johnw :
> To me, "Civic" is short for "Civic Services". Maybe I should make that
> clear. I updated the RFC page
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dcivic
>
IMHO you should make that clear by naming the tag accordingly, i.e.
landuse=civic_
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 10:22:03AM +0100, Peter Svensson wrote:
> I have seen many users doing the mistake of tagging an island inside an
> lake as natural=coastline.
>
> I suspect that the root cause in many cases might be the wiki page for
> place=island. The page encourages the use of natural=c
Warin wrote:
>highway=track is wider than highway=path,
>tracks being useable for at least one 4WD,
>So their width should be say 2 metres?
The first sentence is a common misstatement. Although track requires enough
width for four wheeled vehicles, this does not mean "path" (or footway, or any
2014-11-04 23:33 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann :
> It does not matter if the name is just unset or if noname=yes is set, as
> either of these tags deserve verification
>
there is a subtle difference, in that it is very common in OSM to trace
from aerial imagery without any survey, and in these c
I have seen many users doing the mistake of tagging an island inside an
lake as natural=coastline.
I suspect that the root cause in many cases might be the wiki page for
place=island. The page encourages the use of natural=coastline without
warnings and restrictions.
Would is be possible to make
2014-11-04 22:56 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann :
> This discussion comes late. Both natural=ridge and natural=arete have been
> approved by voting just 2 years ago.
>
arguably it is not too late, there are only 450 uses of arete by now (and
17K+ ridges). Please also note that the tag "natural=are
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