Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-17 Thread johnw
But there's no (easy) way to define an address connected to an unnamed road. Way numbers are not supported for addr:street, afik. most residential roads are totally unnamed in Japan. Most larger roads have a number (and a name). motorways (outside Tokyo) have only names. What we would

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:50 PM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: That scheme seems to rely on house number model. Sure looks good. But does it, by implication, indicate there is a (eg) a house number 12 on the unnamed service road ? I'm not into mapping house numbers so don't

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - trailhead

2015-04-17 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 16.04.2015 06:25, Dave Swarthout wrote: But I'd be willing to bet that most trails are not part of a network of other trails or a route but are stand-alone. The trails I once hiked in the Adirondack Mountains in New York State all have names and trailheads but, with a couple of exceptions,

Re: [Tagging] inuse, defacto

2015-04-17 Thread SomeoneElse
On 17/04/2015 14:38, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: A more useful metric is how many different contributors used the tag. Is anyone aware of any analysis of who (or how many users) first used particular tags, or who (or how many users) accepted a tag by making a subsequent change to an object?

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-17 Thread Tod Fitch
On April 17, 2015 3:40:41 AM PDT, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 2015-04-17 07:39, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: If you entered Pinnacles Campground Site 12 into your OSM powered GPS, would you not be happy if it took you all the way to Site 12? Yes, but I don't think addr:housenumber

Re: [Tagging] inuse, defacto

2015-04-17 Thread Marc Gemis
It will be hard to come up with a number to distinguish between the two. As others have pointed out on this mailing list before, the actual number of items that can be tagged with a certain tag matters. So in case there are only 600 items in the whole world of that thing, it is de-facto. If there

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-17 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2015-04-17 07:39, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: If you entered Pinnacles Campground Site 12 into your OSM powered GPS, would you not be happy if it took you all the way to Site 12? In practice that would also require: addr:housenumber=12 addr:street=[unnamed service road] They are not

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-17 Thread Tod Fitch
Please also see at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site#Tagging_of_individual_pitches Sorry that I can't comment on the area originally linked to but I am currently in the mountains with only a mobile phone and a lousy connection so I am having difficulty

Re: [Tagging] Defacto: man_made=storage_tank

2015-04-17 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 15.04.2015 11:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: People put building=* on any structure +1, and I am fine with it, just wanted to comment on not all tanks are buildings and point out that in OSM all structures are buildings. Bridges? Masts? Fences? Rails? Flagpoles? Power lines? Maybe

Re: [Tagging] Defacto: man_made=storage_tank

2015-04-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 17.04.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: Bridges? Masts? Fences? Rails? Flagpoles? Power lines? Maybe everything that looks like a building, smells like a building and behaves like a building, but not all structures. bridges yes, the others not, see here for a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-17 Thread Tod Fitch
FWIW, on a mountain where I volunteer I mapped the campgrounds with the tagging shown on the proposed extensions page which uses ref=* instead of addr:street or addr:unit. I have also generated paper maps off that OSM data. Local fire people saw one and were impressed and asked for a copy.

[Tagging] proposal - camp_site=

2015-04-17 Thread David Bannon
Folks, to revisit a topic that had lots of discussion last month ! I have updated the proposal page for camp_site=[basic; standard; serviced; delux]. I now avoid the question of how to tag multiple instances of (eg) amenity on the one node, area. People seem to have strong but conflicting views

Re: [Tagging] RFC - obligatory usage - bicycle=obligatory

2015-04-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Apr 14, 2015 2:10 AM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: How would you tag: Here are my reformulated answers. Note that the answers do not apply to all countries, and most certainly not to the US, where to my knowledge there are no distinctions between bicycle and pedestrian use