Re: [Tagging] Tagging hand operated bicycle pumps (compressed_air)

2015-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Why not amenity=compressed_air + access:motor_vehicle=no ? I don't > understand what's the problem with that tag. > probably better: access=no access:bicycle=yes (otherwise everything other than a motor vehicle is assumed yes). __

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-11 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > that's why I suggested to use a multi tag approach. One tag to say it is a > government office, one to say at which level (admin level) and then tags > for the stuff you can do there (property list) or about the general > classification

Re: [Tagging] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread jgpacker
Well, I don't see a need to reinvent this tag anyway. The key note=* is well-established as far as I'm aware. If the editor interface isn't satisfactory, we should be talking with the developers. I'm not sure if it's possible, but placing the note closer to the top of the presets seems like a good

Re: [Tagging] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread johnw
> On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:55 AM, jgpacker wrote: > > This tag already exists and has editor support (at least in iD) for a > considerable time. > It's called note=*. > > Cheers, > João > Note doesn’t appear in a modal window when selecting an object, just on the list on the left (and offscreen

Re: [Tagging] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread jgpacker
This tag already exists and has editor support (at least in iD) for a considerable time. It's called note=*. Cheers, João -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/README-tag-with-editor-support-tp5847911p5847943.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.c

Re: [Tagging] Off Topic: alignment point help

2015-06-11 Thread johnw
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I also deal with places where the tracings/imports are 2-5 years old, nowhere > near aligned to the imagery, has several 20m shifts every few KM, so who > knows what is right > > > yes, that's the main problem, decide what is "

Re: [Tagging] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Mike N
On 6/11/2015 6:17 PM, David wrote: Perhaps more emphasis is needed on good manners when editing existing data too. I believe these are mostly honest mistakes with good intentions. If someone traces imagery or works a fixup challenge while watching TV, 99.99% of edits might be to verify and m

Re: [Tagging] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Janko Mihelić
I like the idea. Editors show the message prominently the first time you touch the object. It doesn't have to be imagery, it can be various messages to subsequent mappers. pet, 12. lip 2015. 00:20 David je napisao: > Formalising readme is a good and have editing tools display it. But i > would l

Re: [Tagging] Tagging hand operated bicycle pumps (compressed_air)

2015-06-11 Thread Janko Mihelić
Why not amenity=compressed_air + access:motor_vehicle=no ? I don't understand what's the problem with that tag. What do you mean by hand operated? You mean pumps where you compress air manualy? Maybe manual_compress=yes is enough. čet, 11. lip 2015. 19:08 Bryce Nesbitt je napisao: > On Thu, Jun

Re: [Tagging] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread David
Formalising readme is a good and have editing tools display it. But i would like to see the readme tag used very selectively. It could contain far more data than the rest if the object's tag. Bad if people saw it like comments in source code. Perhaps more emphasis is needed on good manners when

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: > The readme tag is more of a bandaid. A better way might be to capture the > image date as a tag. The editor could then issue a warning message if the > image date is older than the feature being modified. > The readme is more flexible. Ou

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > 1) formalize the README tag as a way to caution future mappers > > 2) request editor support, when someone goes to change a > README tagged entity, it would be nice if editors would popup > a dialog saying something along the lines of > > W

[Tagging] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
this is a summary of previous discussion on newbies & talk-us we have an ongoing, persistent problem with armchair mappers "correcting" the map to match out of date aerial imagery. i just had to repair the map in Rensselaer, NY; the street named Broadway was reconfigured in late 2012, and bing ima

Re: [Tagging] Tagging hand operated bicycle pumps (compressed_air)

2015-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > repair station with tools=no seems a misnamer. like tagging a water sink > as toilet, with toilet_bowl=no squat_toilet=no, hole_in_the_ground=no ;-) > Thus your proposal is? __

[Tagging] Draft tag for Airport Security Zones | Non-voting procedure

2015-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/security_zone Now I'm not going to run a regular vote on this. The wiki vote process attracts a small number of non-representative and rather argumentative mappers. Discussion about the tag is welcome. But instead of "voting" I challenge

Re: [Tagging] Airport Security Zones (from pet relief area thread)

2015-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:52 AM, johnw wrote: > >> I would hate for a gas station icon to pop up somewhere where I couldn’t >> access it with normal transportation or not really be a “gas station” > > > Devil's advocate: For quite a few p

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

2015-06-11 Thread John Eldredge
How many people will understand this use of "sterile"? It may be a term of art in the security field, but in ordinary use it refers to biological sterility, as in sterilized bandages. In biological terms, an area to be used for pets to urinate/defecate is the opposite of sterile. -- John F. El

Re: [Tagging] Airport Security Zones (from pet relief area thread)

2015-06-11 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:52 AM, johnw wrote: >> I would hate for a gas station icon to pop up somewhere where I couldn’t >> access it with normal transportation or not really be a “gas station” > > Devil's advoc

Re: [Tagging] Off Topic: alignment point help

2015-06-11 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > > 2015-06-11 10:14 GMT+02:00 johnw : >> >> I know the precision isn’t so important, but I want everything to be the >> same relative location. The relative position is very important to me. I >> know di

Re: [Tagging] access=student and entrance=inter-building: comments?

2015-06-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-06-11 14:36 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić : > I think we should focus on the shoes, and not on the students and > inter-buildings. Maybe there are some international suuchools in Japan > where you can walk in shoes, and have an entrance for students. How would > you tag that? > > You need a tag lik

Re: [Tagging] access=student and entrance=inter-building: comments?

2015-06-11 Thread Janko Mihelić
I think we should focus on the shoes, and not on the students and inter-buildings. Maybe there are some international suuchools in Japan where you can walk in shoes, and have an entrance for students. How would you tag that? You need a tag like access:shoes=no for inter-building passages and/or do

Re: [Tagging] Airport Security Zones (from pet relief area thread)

2015-06-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:52 AM, johnw wrote: > I would hate for a gas station icon to pop up somewhere where I couldn’t > access it with normal transportation or not really be a “gas station” Devil's advocate: For quite a few people (particularly in the pacific northwest, the arctic, and othe

Re: [Tagging] Off Topic: alignment point help

2015-06-11 Thread Warin
On 11/06/2015 6:14 PM, johnw wrote: On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: offsets are an approximation to reduce the inherent problems of some aerial layers, they won't solve problems like distortions. JOSM isn't more precise to find a "prop

Re: [Tagging] access=student and entrance=inter-building: comments?

2015-06-11 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 08.06.2015 08:52, johnw wrote: > A month or so ago, new entrance=types came up, and I thought I had a couple > new values for entrance. I’ve been thinking about them, and had these two > ideas. > > Please comment on both. > > > 1) > Access=student - access designated for students of a scho

Re: [Tagging] Off Topic: alignment point help

2015-06-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-06-11 10:14 GMT+02:00 johnw : > > I know the precision isn’t so important, but I want everything to be the > same relative location. The relative position is very important to me. I > know distortion can skew that, for hills and the like. > yes, I have seen it a lot, Bing has a lot of disto

Re: [Tagging] Off Topic: alignment point help

2015-06-11 Thread johnw
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > offsets are an approximation to reduce the inherent problems of some aerial > layers, they won't solve problems like distortions. JOSM isn't more precise > to find a "proper offset" than any other tool, I suggest you simply move

Re: [Tagging] Tagging hand operated bicycle pumps (compressed_air)

2015-06-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 11.06.2015 um 02:18 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt : >> bicycle_repair_station:pump=yes >> bicycle_repair_station:tools=no > > The question is which of these tags can stand as the "main tag". repair station with tools=no seems a misnamer. like tagging a water sink as toilet, wi

[Tagging] Airport Security Zones (from pet relief area thread)

2015-06-11 Thread johnw
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > > wrote: > The 'sterile' I think is redundant. > > The sterile is not redundant, it's a grouping classifier. > Very important, given the bliz

Re: [Tagging] Off Topic: alignment point help

2015-06-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 11.06.2015 um 00:40 schrieb johnw : > > Since there is an imagery offset, many mappers over many years have used > different offset points, so I don’t know which one is the most correct for > this imagery. > > Would someone who uses JSOM with a proper imagery offset p