Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-02 Thread Andrew Errington
> From this it sounds like this tagging in OSM is relying too much on > official classification rather than on real road importance. > > I have always maintained that this is the right way to do it. Official classification is objective and easy to verify. "real road importance" is purely

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 16:32:07 +0900 Andrew Errington wrote: > > From this it sounds like this tagging in OSM is relying too much on > > official classification rather than on real road importance. > > > > > I have always maintained that this is the right way to do it. > >

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-02 Thread Lauri Kytömaa
Andrew Errington wrote: > I think that for any particular country, the official classification > hierarchy should be mapped on to the OSM hierarchy. If this is not Countries are different in this regard. For example, here we use the official classification for all rural state operated roads, and

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Generally following official classification is a good idea (otherwise > it will be inconsistent) but some exceptions should be expected. > > Also, there are many ways to map official classification on to OSM >

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt (history (authors of changesets))

2015-09-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 23:55:14 +0200 "André Pirard" wrote: > On 2015-08-31 20:12, � wrote : > > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:55:27 +0200 > >> moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > >> > >>> On 31/08/2015, Mateusz

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Wed, 02 Sep 2015 06:54:04 +0900 John Willis wrote: > > > > On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:46 PM, Paul Johnson > > wrote: > > > > presently traverses a staircase! > > I currently forget which, but a national road in Japan officially > becomes a staircase near its

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-02 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 02.09.2015 15:55, John Willis napisał(a): But - most importantly - this implementation is what japanese people expect and require from their maps, as the shape of the roads gives users a spatial awareness of where they are - and changing those roads means making an "inferior" map.

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:28:08 -0700 Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > > > > Is there some method to automate finding who introduced tags? Doing > > it manually would not be worth the effort. On the

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-02 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Is there some method to automate finding who introduced tags? Doing it > manually would not be worth the effort. On the other hand - running > script to detect users (and/or relevant changesets) may be a good

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

2015-09-02 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Richard wrote: > Just wondered - when did anyone here last see a wheelchair=no road sign? > Is any > of these 214658 tags correct? > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=wheelchair=no wheelchair=no is defined by http://wheelmap.org/

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-02 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:17 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: > > It also means that real importance could be tagged one day instead of > "official" importance, so we have at least something proper once people will > have what they really want anyway. =} Rant: I agree that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - indoormark=beacon

2015-09-02 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Guillermo Sorry for the mistake, it's ok. Good luck for the vote ;) François *François Lacombe* fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com www.infos-reseaux.com @InfosReseaux 2015-09-01 22:26 GMT+02:00 Guillermo Amat : > Hello > >

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt (history (authors of changesets))

2015-09-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-09-02 08:34, Mateusz Konieczny wrote : On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 23:55:14 +0200 "André Pirard" wrote: On 2015-08-31 20:12, � wrote : On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-09-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 31.08.2015 um 22:38 schrieb Daniel Koć : > > Current Simple 3D Buildings specification basically tells to slice the > buildings with building:levels=* and building:min_level=*, so we better use > this notation. yes, kind of like this is the way. I must

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-02 Thread John Willis
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > From this it sounds like this tagging in OSM is relying too much on > official classification rather than on real road importance. And similar to someone printing out an email and faxing it to someone, we have

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt (history (authors of changesets))

2015-09-02 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 02/09/2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 23:55:14 +0200 > "André Pirard" wrote: >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/3157502486/history >> >> will return the complete list (history) of authors, changesets and >> dates

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-02 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 01.09.2015 10:38, Anders Fougner wrote: > My proposal in case someone wants to help beginners with the surface tag: > *Illustrate* the surface hierarchy somewhere in the OSM wiki (e.g. at > ). > Right now the hierarcy is not illustrated, it is

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-02 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 02/09/2015, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > On 01.09.2015 10:13, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: >> But as a user of surface=soil, could you tell me what difference you >> see between soil and earth (from an osm POV) ? To me, those two are >> actual osm synonyms, but 'earth' is documented

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-09-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 31.08.2015 um 23:46 schrieb John Willis : > > Is there some easily understood dividing line between a "building" and a > "high-rise building" in OSM or the real world? I guess it is country specific, maybe even depends on the city or state. In Germany