Re: [Tagging] new access value

2015-10-07 Thread Warin
On 8/10/2015 4:05 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Friedrich Volkmann > wrote: On 06.10.2015 21:41, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Sorry - no - All of them are *=destination. Don't be sorry. Think forward. Help find a name for the missing tag.

Re: [Tagging] new access value

2015-10-07 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 08.10.2015 07:05, Marc Gemis wrote: > While this missing tag might be theoretically useful, I wonder how you car > navigation will benefit from it ? > Will it start by "Hallo Mary, you want to drive to X street, but there is a > "people living there and their visitors only access restriction and

Re: [Tagging] new access value

2015-10-07 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 08.10.2015 04:21, John Willis wrote: > How do they enforce it in Europe? Stickers on cars? Stop and ask? In cities, there are lots of 30 km/h speed limits, oneways and traffic_calming=* to deter cutters. Parking requires a sticker on the car. Residents need to pay for it (around 150 €/year in

Re: [Tagging] new access value

2015-10-07 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > On 06.10.2015 21:41, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Sorry - no - All of them are *=destination. > > Don't be sorry. Think forward. Help find a name for the missing tag. > While this missing tag might be theoretically useful, I wonder how you

Re: [Tagging] new access value

2015-10-07 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 4:21 AM, John Willis wrote: > So no, there is no way to enforce "thru traffic" signs, but there are > several other ways to deter or eliminate cutters through other means, but > old roads are usually out of luck. > > How do they enforce it in Europe? Stickers on cars? Stop

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Andrew Guertin
On 10/07/2015 09:58 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: Candidates for deprecating: general - deprecate and propose to look for other shop values (like "yes")? No. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_store --Andrew ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstre

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > > building_materials > > Possibly duplicate with shop=doityourself, not sure though. > I see this as a place where you can buy bricks, sand, wood, etc. but no tools. A do-it-yourself in Belgium typically also sells tools. Something like

Re: [Tagging] new access value

2015-10-07 Thread John Willis
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:43 AM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > http://blog.al.com/breaking/2011/12/no_through_traffic_signs_in_ne.html. > This case would be unthinkable here in Central Europe. The police have no power because the road is public and built, so people are legally allowed to drive o

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Warin
On 8/10/2015 12:58 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: I was trying to review the shop values we show in osm-carto (top 100 according to TagInfo - you can list it by running this Ruby script: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/scripts/shop_values.rb ) and here are my quick findin

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 07.10.2015 20:26, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On 7 October 2015 at 15:58, Daniel Koć wrote: >> builder > > Not sure what this is used for. I have mapped some craft=builder. Small offices, maybe with some storage for tools and construction materials. shop=* seems wrong. >> building_materials >

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread ael
On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 03:58:23PM +0200, Daniel Koć wrote: > building_materials Very likely shop=trade and trade=building_supplies although perhaps it does not cater for professionals. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://li

Re: [Tagging] new access value

2015-10-07 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 06.10.2015 21:41, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Sorry - no - All of them are *=destination. Don't be sorry. Think forward. Help find a name for the missing tag. > If you include them? What would be the legal sign? I know > of none. You can put up signs which say - "Redheads only on > mondays" but th

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 7 October 2015 at 15:58, Daniel Koć wrote: > builder Not sure what this is used for. > building_materials Possibly duplicate with shop=doityourself, not sure though. > craft I use this for shops selling coloured paper, glue, knitting supplies etc. > discount I use shop=variety_store inst

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Michał Brzozowski
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > Candidates for deprecating: > radiotechnics - electronics? I proposed[1] electronic_parts (though honestly didn't remember to make a voting after the RFC) - in a hindsight it could probably be named electronic_supply as they sell things like mu

Re: [Tagging] new access value

2015-10-07 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 06.10.2015 23:11, John Willis wrote: > > >> On Oct 6, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: >> >> So if "destination" excludes off-wanderers and sightseers, what tag do you >> use when you need to include them? > > Yes/permissive under general. > > If I am free to come up park my car

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 15:58 +0200, Daniel Koć wrote: > I was trying to review the shop values we show in osm-carto (top 100 > according to TagInfo - you can list it by running this Ruby script: > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/scrip > ts/shop_values.rb > ) and he

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 07.10.2015 um 19:08 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer : > > some of them are defined on other wikipages. For craft I'm sure there is a > page please forget this, sorry for the noise Regarding the idea to make them more general: when it's a specific shop specialized in sel

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 07.10.2015 um 15:58 schrieb Daniel Koć : > > No wiki page or definition (some of them can be also candidates for > deprecating and replacing with something else): some of them are defined on other wikipages. For craft I'm sure there is a page cheers Martin __

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > interior_decoration - houseware? > JOSM has an icon for interior_decoration. and as Lauri wrote I use it for places selling carpets, curtains etc. > shopping_centre - mall? > This was discussed in the past year. As far as I remember, a shop

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Lauri Kytömaa
Daniel Koć wrote: > discount > flooring > games > health_food > hobby > tiles At least these are probably or possibly locally referred to as they are tagged, Maybe someone can come up with fitting but more general values, if there are any. If a shop sells mostly only games, it's a shop selling game

[Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread Daniel Koć
I was trying to review the shop values we show in osm-carto (top 100 according to TagInfo - you can list it by running this Ruby script: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/scripts/shop_values.rb ) and here are my quick findings: No wiki page or definition (some of

Re: [Tagging] Parcel box tagging

2015-10-07 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 07.10.2015 9:25, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): Am 07.10.2015 um 05:21 schrieb Marc Gemis : The ones that are mentioned here places where more than one person can bring parcels to be send, not ? AFAIK you can do both, let your parcels arrive there to get them later or bring them in

Re: [Tagging] Parcel box tagging

2015-10-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 07.10.2015 um 05:21 schrieb Marc Gemis : > > The ones that are mentioned here places where more than one person can bring > parcels to be send, not ? AFAIK you can do both, let your parcels arrive there to get them later or bring them in to be sent cheers Martin __