Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

I thought levels are just relative to one another. So we just need to indicate which "way" is above the other. This could be with numbers 1000 and 1001 as well as 0 and 1 or -2 and 5. It's just by convention that tunnels are typically mapped as -1 (except for building_passages under houses) and br

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Remove name_1 and alt_name_1 from wiki)

tOn 26/01/2016, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > In my experience name, name:en, old_name, alt_name, alt_name:ru etc etc > etc were always sufficient. An example where multivalue names are > truly necessary would be interesting. Andy has already given some good answers and I've rambled for too long on

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 76, Issue 56

> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 05:25:16 -0600 > From: Paul Johnson > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards > Message-ID: >q...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:16

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

On 27/01/2016 8:50 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: layer=-1 to me says this is below natural ground level. And here that is not the case - the road is above natural ground level and that

[Tagging] Feature proposal - Approved - Location transitions

Hi all, Just to inform you I've closed the vote of the location transitions proposal. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Location_transitions According to the 14 yes votes against 2 no and 0 abst, this key is now approved. Currently, the document is still on Post-Vote status sin

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > layer=-1 to me says this is below natural ground level. And here that is > not the case - the road is above natural ground level and that should be > tagged layer=1 .. to be absolutely technically correct. > > But many use th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Remove name_1 and alt_name_1 from wiki)

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Éric Gillet wrote: > > 2016-01-26 17:52 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale >: > So how ARE we going to represent multi-valued attributes from real life in an > OSM context? > > > I believe that if a multi-value tag system is added to the OSM AP

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

On 27/01/2016 7:30 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:14:48 +0100 David Marchal wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:26:55 +0100 From: matkoni...@gmail.com To: pene...@live.fr CC: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:14:48 +0100 David Marchal wrote: > > > > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:26:55 +0100 > > From: matkoni...@gmail.com > > To: pene...@live.fr > > CC: tagging@openstreetmap.org > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a > > culvert below a track / wiki vot

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - recycling:coffee_capsules

I would just use it. It fit undoubtedly in the current tagging scheme. regards m On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:06 PM, wrote: > Hello > > This is a reminder. Please vote... Or maybe we'll just use it. I am not > shure if you tried to say me that voting is useless because we can just use > it or bec

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - recycling:coffee_capsules

Hello This is a reminder. Please vote... Or maybe we'll just use it. I am not shure if you tried to say me that voting is useless because we can just use it or because it is a useless tag... Am 13. Januar 2016 03:30:51 MEZ, schrieb Dominic Coletti : >Is it really worth explicitly voting on? "

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Remove name_1 and alt_name_1 from wiki)

On 26/01/2016 19:16, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: In my experience name, name:en, old_name, alt_name, alt_name:ru etc etc etc were always sufficient. An example where multivalue names are truly necessary would be interesting. Here's a brief summary of where I think that what we have now for names

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:14 AM, David Marchal wrote: > Indeed; here comes the picture: http://1drv.ms/1ZQJCxT Hendrikklaas told > me by a private message "Simple tagging is tunnel=culvert-bridge and add > layer=-1 to avoid crossing conflicts. Or leave it just > tunnel=building_passage like you

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Remove name_1 and alt_name_1 from wiki)

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:52:13 +0100 Colin Smale wrote: > Indeed, it is filling one hole with another. So how ARE we going to > represent multi-valued attributes from real life in an OSM context? > > I am not detecting much progress on this, just negativity around all > current attempts at doing

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:26:55 +0100 > From: matkoni...@gmail.com > To: pene...@live.fr > CC: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below > a track / wiki votes enforcement > > I think that photo of this object would be useful to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Remove name_1 and alt_name_1 from wiki)

2016-01-26 17:52 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > So how ARE we going to represent multi-valued attributes from real life in > an OSM context? > I believe that if a multi-value tag system is added to the OSM API, the migration would be easier from semicolumns multi-values than from _N suffixes.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Remove name_1 and alt_name_1 from wiki)

Indeed, it is filling one hole with another. So how ARE we going to represent multi-valued attributes from real life in an OSM context? I am not detecting much progress on this, just negativity around all current attempts at doing it. //colin On 2016-01-26 17:21, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > On

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Remove name_1 and alt_name_1 from wiki)

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 01:22:25 +0100 Hakuch wrote: > The voting for the proposal "Remove suffixed name-tags from wiki" has > started. Please involve with your vote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Remove_suffixed_name-tags_from_wiki > > find discussion threads here: > >

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

On 26 January 2016 at 14:12, Marc Zoutendijk wrote: >> I would like : >> - discourage tourism=gallery >> - subtype of tourism=museum, museum=art just like >> museum=railway/history, and further art=painting/... >> - also redirect towards shop=art for badly tagged items >> > > +1 > This is a clear

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

> Op 26 jan. 2016, om 10:43 heeft althio het volgende > geschreven: > > > I would like : > - discourage tourism=gallery > - subtype of tourism=museum, museum=art just like > museum=railway/history, and further art=painting/... > - also redirect towards shop=art for badly tagged items > +1 Th

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

Frederik Ramm Wrote in message: > Hi, > >the German word "Galerie" is often used for art showrooms where you > can actually buy the stuff on display. (I know a couple that are not > larger than a typical hairdresser's.) Hence I wouldn't be surprised if > many of the 415 tourism=gallery featu

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

On 26 January 2016 at 10:15, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:59 AM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: >> >> Seitenstreifen > > Yes, that would be what we're referring to, if Google Translate is to be > believed. If only there was a free online encyclopedia... https://en.wikipedia.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Jewellery shop

The approved way of tagging is using the AE spelling. Approved by the use of the tag by thousands of mappers. Spelling it different could be treated as a misspelled tag. So "fixing" it is not that surprising. Bad luck for those who invented it in the wrong spelling. Now it is too late for cha

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

W dniu 26.01.2016 11:27, Gerd Petermann napisał(a): althio wrote It brings too much confusion, I take it for a bad case of duck tagging. I would like : - discourage tourism=gallery - subtype of tourism=museum, museum=art just like museum=railway/history, and further art=painting/... - also red

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Jewellery shop

2016-01-26 12:01 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > against another one with 187, then the decision has already been > made by the mappers. > btw: there seem to be people changing the spelling of these from BE to AE, I have in the past added shop=jewellery and looking at them now shows they have

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Jewellery shop

2016-01-26 11:07 GMT+01:00 Hakuch : > against another one with 187, then the decision has already been > made by the mappers. > or by the people making the editor presets and rendering rules, autocompletion. How many people are typing tags and override the autocompletion suggestion, and then dec

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

2016-01-26 10:43 GMT+01:00 althio : > I would like : > - discourage tourism=gallery > - subtype of tourism=museum, museum=art just like > museum=railway/history, and further art=painting/... > - also redirect towards shop=art for badly tagged items > I agree we should distinguish art museums and

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

Thanks, that helps a lot:-) Von: Martin Koppenhoefer Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Januar 2016 11:22 An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging 2016-01-26 10:59 GMT+01:00 Gerd Petermann mailto:gpetermann_muenc

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

althio wrote > It brings too much confusion, I take it for a bad case of duck tagging. > > I would like : > - discourage tourism=gallery > - subtype of tourism=museum, museum=art just like > museum=railway/history, and further art=painting/... > - also redirect towards shop=art for badly tagged it

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-26 10:59 GMT+01:00 Gerd Petermann : > Dou you think that shoulder means what we call "Seitenstreifen" ? yes, Standstreifen, Standspur, Seitenstreifen, Randstreifen. I've improved the proposal to make this clearer for non-native people (added a definition (from WP), added more German syn

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

On 26.01.2016 10:43, althio wrote: > I would like : > - discourage tourism=gallery > - subtype of tourism=museum, museum=art just like > museum=railway/history, and further art=painting/... > - also redirect towards shop=art for badly tagged items +1 0x2E165BB0.asc Description: application/pgp-

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:59 AM, Gerd Petermann < gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Seitenstreifen Yes, that would be what we're referring to, if Google Translate is to be believed. http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/84rYvy_hxh95K8ipF1NfVw/photo has an example of an expressway with both a

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

On 26/01/2016 8:59 PM, Gerd Petermann wrote: Hi, As a German I am not sure if I understand what shoulder means. In Germany we have a traffic_sign "Seitenstreifen nicht befahrbar" and one with a pictogram: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolkdirekt.com%2Fimages%2F600%2F5360

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Jewellery shop

On 25.01.2016 23:24, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > Hi all, > > The tag shop=jewelry is one of the few tags that use American rather > than British English. The previous discussion seemed to indicate that > people have strong opinions on this topic, but that there is no strong > consensus either way.

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

Hi, As a German I am not sure if I understand what shoulder means. In Germany we have a traffic_sign "Seitenstreifen nicht befahrbar" and one with a pictogram: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolkdirekt.com%2Fimages%2F600%2F536052%2Fverkehrsschild-nach-stvo-typ-1-nr-388-seit

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:35 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > From my travels .. I'd say the most frequent (most miles) case is > shoulder=no. > Of course this could be made sensitive to the highway classification .. > motorways usually have a shoulder, driveways don't. > I would still

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

I agree there is a more fundamental problem. This has been discussed in other places that I know of: [french] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2015-January/074711.html [carto] https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/883#issuecomment-81849889 My view is : - to

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

On 26/01/2016 8:23 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Hi all, At present there is no documented standard for tagging highway shoulders. We have http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder with shoulder=yes|no, which has been in 'draft (under way)' since 2010. In Australia, cycleway=shoulder appears

[Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

Hi all, At present there is no documented standard for tagging highway shoulders. We have http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder with shoulder=yes|no, which has been in 'draft (under way)' since 2010. In Australia, cycleway=shoulder appears also to be used. Taginfo stats are: sh