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> Il giorno 14 giu 2016, alle ore 04:56, johnw ha scritto:
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> I just want to divorce trails from sidewalks !
+1, it was a very bad idea from the beginning to use highway=path/footway for
sidewalks. They are much more similar to lanes than to independent ways. But as
was
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> Il giorno 14 giu 2016, alle ore 03:39, John Willis ha scritto:
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> Look, first and foremost, I want to get the idea of "path/footway" - a
> Flat-ish way maintained for pedestrians and "trail" for hiking/trekking
> separated in some manner. I think we can all agree that a
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> Il giorno 14 giu 2016, alle ore 05:29, Mark Wagner ha
> scritto:
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> Palisades Park (2.5 sq. km) has two trails that are clearly "main".
> However, they're both maintained as access roads for brush-fire trucks,
> so I've mapped them as "highway=track" plus appropriate acce
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 07:59:18 -0400
Greg Troxel wrote:
> Martin Koppenhoefer writes:
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> >> Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 01:22, Greg Troxel
> >> ha scritto:
> >>
> >> I agree there should be some tag to show that a trail/path is the
> >> main one.
> >
> > do we
> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Tod Fitch wrote:
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> There is at least one proposal for path/trail difficulty in the wiki [1] and
> at least one that appears accepted and in use [2]. Of course neither of those
> is an exact match for the Yosemite Decimal System[3] based on a 1930s Sierra
>
> On Jun 13, 2016, at 6:39 PM, John Willis wrote:
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> . . .
> The second idea of grading trails, similar to track type I am less sure of.
>
> Trail conditions vary so wildly, I think it is difficult to define - and
> people's perceptions of what is "needed" for a hike vary wildly. Some people
Javbw
> On Jun 13, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
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> but how would path=main or tertiary etc. make any difference here, or
> describe better who can take a certain way/which equipment/skills are
> required?
This is a good question.
Look, first and foremost, I want to get
On 6/13/2016 10:23 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
John Willis writes:
[dropping things replied to already]
On Jun 13, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
Subkey:
Trail=main (usually there is some backbone path that all trails branch out from
in a large park.)
Trail=official (officially designated
I also think an official top level tag is needed to differentiate between
footways and hiking trails, e.g., highway=trail. IMO, the issues of
importance, access, as well as rendering, will all need to be worked out
after this critical decision has been made. I don't believe a second-level
footway=s
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> Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 14:23, Greg Troxel ha
> scritto:
> It could be that the trail everybody thinks
> is main is not official. And non-main trails may be official and may
> be not-official. So I would like to see one tag for official/not and
> one for main/n
Martin Koppenhoefer writes:
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>> Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 12:03, John Willis ha
>> scritto:
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>> Being able to define them separately and get them rendered
>> differently allows for proper interpretation and expected conditions
>> - Just like an alley vs a farming
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> Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 12:03, John Willis ha scritto:
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> Being able to define them separately and get them rendered differently allows
> for proper interpretation and expected conditions - Just like an alley vs a
> farming road vs a motorway - Is essential for a
John Willis writes:
[dropping things replied to already]
> On Jun 13, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
>>> Subkey:
>>> Trail=main (usually there is some backbone path that all trails branch out
>>> from in a large park.)
>>> Trail=official (officially designated trails in a park, where
John Willis writes:
> I can go to a nice park in San Diego and walk along a nice
> highway=footway with my 68 year old mother and my friend in a
> wheelchair and my little cousin on a push bicycle. Surface=dirt.
>
> Go try to do any of those on either path I linked. There were
> (honestly) 60 ye
Martin Koppenhoefer writes:
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>> Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 01:22, Greg Troxel ha
>> scritto:
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>> I agree there should be some tag to show that a trail/path is the main
>> one.
>
> do we need a tag, or is it evident by the routes that use the ways?
I think we need
> On Jun 13, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Mark Wagner wrote:
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> In my experience, the
> defining characteristic of a trail is that it isn't paved.
So why isn't every track highway=service + surface=*
Motorway? Service road? Both concrete - same usage and expected conditions,
right? Let's define
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> Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 07:17, John Willis ha scritto:
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> Something, *anything* to separate hiking trails from sidewalks and other
> footways. It is, in the literal meaning of the word, incomprehensible to me
> that there is no way to separate sidewalks and hikin
On 13/06/2016 06:17, John Willis wrote:
Something, *anything* to separate hiking trails from sidewalks and
other footways. It is, in the literal meaning of the word,
incomprehensible to me that there is no way to separate sidewalks and
hiking routes.
You could start with a "surface" tag...
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:17:49 +0900
John Willis wrote:
> Javbw
>
> On Jun 13, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
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> >> Highway=trail
> >
> > I don't think we need to change path to trail. It's basically the
> > same thing.
>
> Path=trail
> Path:trail=main
>
> Something, *anything* t
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> Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 01:22, Greg Troxel ha
> scritto:
>
> I agree there should be some tag to show that a trail/path is the main
> one.
do we need a tag, or is it evident by the routes that use the ways?
cheers,
Martin
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