Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Warin
On 11-Mar-17 05:13 PM, Yves wrote: Of course in an hotel there is not much confusion possible with agricultural purposes , however why not clothes_drying if 'area' is used in the tag? Some dry tents, at least I do. I can see some drying backpacks, sleeping bags.. mine are usually dry.

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Yves
Of course in an hotel there is not much confusion possible with agricultural purposes , however why not clothes_drying if 'area' is used in the tag? Yves ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Warin
On 11-Mar-17 01:25 PM, Thilo Haug wrote: O.k., I see, in case of drying_room it doesn't work. Perhaps: drying:room=yes/no/heated drying:compartment=yes/no/heated drying:dryer=convection/inertised/microwave (leaves the possibility to add more "drying" stuff if needed ?). Don't think that

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Thilo Haug
O.k., I see, in case of drying_room it doesn't work. Perhaps: drying:room=yes/no/heated drying:compartment=yes/no/heated drying:dryer=convection/inertised/microwave (leaves the possibility to add more "drying" stuff if needed ?). __ Regarding the sports : How about the

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Thilo Haug
That's what I meant with "same for bicycle/skiing/hiking etc.". skiing:drying=heated This naming system is used by addr:*=* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr#Commonly_used_subkeys contact:*=* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:contact And bicycle has an (undocumented) similar

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Warin
Err this will be a separate key I think of it more as a property key .. likeinternet_access ? Consider that these are not only attractive to motorcyclists but also to hikers, bicyclist, canoeists, canyoners, skiers ... anyone with wet

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Thilo Haug
Hi, you're right, it doesn't have to be a separate room, but how about : motorcycle:drying=room/area/compartment ? (same for bicycle/skiing/hiking etc.) Cheers, Thilo Am 11.03.2017 um 01:37 schrieb Warin: > Hi, > > Following on from the 'friendly:*=*' discussion there appears to be a >

[Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Warin
Hi, Following on from the 'friendly:*=*' discussion there appears to be a desire to tag the property of a drying_room for some physical features. But I think some of these 'rooms' .. don't meet a strict definition of a 'room'? So would it be preferable to use 'drying_area' as a key value

Re: [Tagging] charging station power output

2017-03-10 Thread Warin
On 11-Mar-17 05:23 AM, lucas-...@use.startmail.com wrote: Calculating the max. power is really easy. You just need to know the max. amperage (I), the max. voltage (U) and the number of phases (#np) the current is delivered in (do you say that?). p = square_root(#np) * I * U Measuring AC has

Re: [Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".

2017-03-10 Thread Dalibor Jelínek
Hello, I fully aggree that this change is undesirable. If you want to use an access type key lets say bicycle=* then you go to this page for documentation https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bicycle and you are refered to the Key:access page for values. And there you see that it is

Re: [Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".

2017-03-10 Thread Dalibor Jelínek
Of course it was there, he just moved it to the lower part of the table. Dalibor (chrabros) > -Original Message- > From: Mariusz [mailto:marius...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 9:09 PM > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re:

Re: [Tagging] Improve toilet tagging

2017-03-10 Thread Dave Swarthout
I'm all for simplicity... this discussion is all too sophisticated for me! +1 Hi Kevin, Some of these discussions involve the most trivial (IMO) tagging issues. This one has some merit I suppose but it's obvious to me that some people have run out of bigger projects and are starting to focus on

Re: [Tagging] Improve toilet tagging

2017-03-10 Thread Warin
On 11-Mar-17 08:51 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 03/10/2017 09:43 PM, Micah Cochran wrote: #2. Single-stall versus Multi-stall tagging There's also those male toilets with a discrete number of urinals and those where you have basically one wall-wide urinal used by as many people as manage

Re: [Tagging] Improve toilet tagging

2017-03-10 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I'm wary of tagging too many business details. I fear a toilets > namespace would lead to people adding all sorts of observations about > toilets that they used in some shop or other and that might at best be >

Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Tod Fitch
This is exactly what I was looking for! And I see the wiki for man_made=adit was updated today to include mention of the direction tag. Thanks! > On Mar 10, 2017, at 6:11 AM, Zecke wrote: > > Please note that www.historic.place displays the orientation of adits. As it

Re: [Tagging] Improve toilet tagging

2017-03-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/10/2017 09:43 PM, Micah Cochran wrote: > #2. Single-stall versus Multi-stall tagging There's also those male toilets with a discrete number of urinals and those where you have basically one wall-wide urinal used by as many people as manage to cram in ;) > #3. A way to tag the toilets

Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Mark Wagner wrote: > Thing is, the information *isn't* available by other means. Adits > don't always go straight in -- of the two I'm aware of, both are at > rather sharp angles to the (very local) slope of the hill. > OK, you've

Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:34 AM, Kevin Kenny > wrote: > >> >> I can just now hear, nevertheless, a chorus asserting that the >> information is available by other means and therefore does

[Tagging] Improve toilet tagging

2017-03-10 Thread Micah Cochran
I am looking to improve tagging of toilets. Specifically, I'm interested in tagging gender neutral toilets (unisex or "family toilets") and single-stall toilets. I'm using establishment to mean any place that would be tagged that would have a public toilet within the place and that you would

Re: [Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".

2017-03-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/03/2017 19:36, Yves wrote: Not saying it's not useful, but at least self-moderation should be considered. I'll try and be tactful here - let's just say that that approach has been suggested :) Best Regards, Andy ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".

2017-03-10 Thread Mariusz
W dniu 2017-03-10 o 20:25, Frederik Ramm pisze: As far as I can see the change you are referring to is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Aaccess=revision=1440112=1439975 before that, "access=designated" wasn't even on the "Key:access" page, Certainly it was. Mariusz

Re: [Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".

2017-03-10 Thread Mariusz
W dniu 2017-03-10 o 20:25, Frederik Ramm pisze: As far as I can see the change you are referring to is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Aaccess=revision=1440112=1439975 before that, "access=designated" wasn't even on the "Key:access" page, and Verdy_p added it there:

Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Mark Wagner
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 09:34:51 -0500 Kevin Kenny wrote: > I can just now hear, nevertheless, a chorus asserting that the > information is available by other means and therefore does not belong > in OSM. An adit or a cave entrance (that isn't a sinkhole) pretty > much

Re: [Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".

2017-03-10 Thread Yves
Woosh, 200 edits a day! Not saying it's not useful, but at least self-moderation should be considered. After all it's a community there. Yves Le 10 mars 2017 20:25:17 GMT+01:00, Frederik Ramm a écrit : >Hi, > >On 03/10/2017 08:05 PM, Mariusz wrote: >> >> Please note

Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Mike Thompson
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Zecke wrote: > Am 10.03.2017 20:04, schrieb Mike Thompson: > > > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:34 AM, Kevin Kenny > wrote: > >> >> I can just now hear, nevertheless, a chorus asserting that the >> information is

Re: [Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".

2017-03-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/10/2017 08:05 PM, Mariusz wrote: > > Please note that due to recent changes by user Verdy_p the "designated" > value for various access key has been apparently marked as deprecated. > Pages affected: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access >

Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Zecke
Am 10.03.2017 20:04, schrieb Mike Thompson: On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:34 AM, Kevin Kenny > wrote: I can just now hear, nevertheless, a chorus asserting that the information is available by other means and therefore

[Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".

2017-03-10 Thread Mariusz
Please note that due to recent changes by user Verdy_p the "designated" value for various access key has been apparently marked as deprecated. Pages affected: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Ddesignated Mariusz

Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Mike Thompson
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:34 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > I can just now hear, nevertheless, a chorus asserting that the information > is available by other means and therefore does not belong in OSM. An adit > or a cave entrance (that isn't a sinkhole) pretty much has

[Tagging] charging station power output

2017-03-10 Thread lucas-osm
Hey guys, two of the criteria on charging stations that matter the most to the drivers are the max. power output of the whole station and the max. power output of the socket compatible with my car. The power output of a specific socket gives some orientation on how fast you can charge in the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
The services offered by post offices vary from country. Post offices in the US handle letters and packages, but don't offer any of the other services you mention. The main distinction in the USA is that "post office" conventionally refers only to offices of the United States Postal Service,

Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Dalibor Jelínek
Hello, +1 for direction tag. Dalibor > -Original Message- > From: Zecke [mailto:zecke@historic.place] > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 3:12 PM > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit? > > Please note that

Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Kevin Kenny
On 03/10/2017 08:48 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: There are a number of abandoned adits and mine shafts in an area I’ve done some mapping in. When looking at old USGS topographic maps of the area, I’ve noticed that they used to align their symbol for an adit to show its orientation. My inclination, at

Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Zecke
Please note that www.historic.place displays the orientation of adits. As it can be seen here: http://gk.historic.place/historische_objekte/translate/en/index-en.html?zoom=17=49.27361=6.9515=n2218896180=KmHaSaHe We evaluate the direction tag, Please note that the direction is seen from the

Re: [Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Colin Smale
On 2017-03-10 14:48, Tod Fitch wrote: > There are a number of abandoned adits and mine shafts in an area I've done > some mapping in. When looking at old USGS topographic maps of the area, I've > noticed that they used to align their symbol for an adit to show its > orientation. > > I'd like

[Tagging] Orientation of an adit?

2017-03-10 Thread Tod Fitch
There are a number of abandoned adits and mine shafts in an area I’ve done some mapping in. When looking at old USGS topographic maps of the area, I’ve noticed that they used to align their symbol for an adit to show its orientation. I’d like to duplicate that rendering on the topographic maps

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-10 Thread muzirian
As phillip said, post office tag is unsuitable, they offer more services, and they are not just for post.They have similarity in one service they offer but that dont make both same thing. For example bar and pub are two distinct objects. On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Paul Johnson

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:01 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Friday, 10 March 2017, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 4:04 AM, muzirian wrote: > > > > > The fact that people are relying these services more than post offices > to > > >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Friday, 10 March 2017, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 4:04 AM, muzirian wrote: > > > The fact that people are relying these services more than post offices to > > send/recieve things (which is the most important purpose) made me think > > that they have the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 4:04 AM, muzirian wrote: > The fact that people are relying these services more than post offices to > send/recieve things (which is the most important purpose) made me think > that they have the significance to be called as amenity, but it is >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-10 Thread muzirian
The fact that people are relying these services more than post offices to send/recieve things (which is the most important purpose) made me think that they have the significance to be called as amenity, but it is debatable. What i wish is to make a standard for them , no matter if its tagged as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-10 Thread muzirian
I know there are places which privatized post offices and we can use post offices tag for them.But these facilities which I am talking about arent post offices and they co exist at places where post offices only state owned. On Friday, March 10, 2017, John F. Eldredge wrote: