Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

2019-03-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 11:13, Steven Estes wrote: > Is there a difference between holding_position=runway and > holding_position:runway? > Yes, there is, & Joseph's suggestion of holding_position=runway is much better than mine. You can then also have any others: holding_position=intermediate

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

2019-03-28 Thread Steven Estes
Is there a difference between holding_position=runway and holding_position:runway? Certainly better for simulation rendering. Without getting down in the weeds, it also can make a noticeable difference in algorithms where you're basing alerts on an approach to the hold line. Hold lines can take

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

2019-03-28 Thread Steven Estes
This sounds reasonable to me. I'm new to OSM and didn't know about the subtag option. I'll probably let the discussion go for a bit longer, but this seems like the best course of action. Thanks. On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 04:34, Mark

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

2019-03-28 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
It would be easiest to add “holding_position=runway” to the existing “aeroway=holding_position” tag. This way, any database users who are already using “aeroway=holding_position” do not have their data broken, and he detail can be added incrementally BTW, why do you need the line mapped rather

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

2019-03-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 04:34, Mark Wagner wrote: > > How does this differ from aeroway=holding_position On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 06:04, Steven Estes wrote: > Tackle this a bit on the proposal page, which notes that holding_position > as currently formulated has two limitations. First, it's

Re: [Tagging] Bus rapid transit: service=bus vs service=busway vs no service tag

2019-03-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Mar 2019, at 21:07, Phake Nick wrote: > > A problem with using something like service=bus is that it implies all buses > can use it but in many cases BRT roads are only open to BRT buses and ban all > other buses? „bus“ in OpenStreetMap, at least the key, does

Re: [Tagging] Bus rapid transit: service=bus vs service=busway vs no service tag

2019-03-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 22:40, Fernando Trebien wrote: > There haven't been many non-European respondents on this thread, Here's one from Australia, that was done slightly differently https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25843306#map=16/-27.5418/153.0652 This is on it's own roadway, completely

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=inflatable_park

2019-03-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 05:16, Silent Spike wrote: > In that case I'd like to raise the question on whether we think this > proposal should be expanded to suggest both inflatable and trampoline parks > be tagged using leisure=playground, fee=yes and playground=* (as it seems > to me that they

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

2019-03-28 Thread Steven Estes
Believe I just fixed the issue. Give me a shout if the links still don't work. Thanks. On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 1:46 PM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Is it feasible to post > https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Public/example.png?role=personal > in place accessible to a public? > > Mar 28, 2019, 6:27

Re: [Tagging] Bus rapid transit: service=bus vs service=busway vs no service tag

2019-03-28 Thread Phake Nick
A problem with using something like service=bus is that it implies all buses can use it but in many cases BRT roads are only open to BRT buses and ban all other buses? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

2019-03-28 Thread Steven Estes
Tackle this a bit on the proposal page, which notes that holding_position as currently formulated has two limitations. First, it's fairly broad. It includes runway holding position markings, ILS critical holding position markings, and interim holding position markings. Each of these markings is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=inflatable_park

2019-03-28 Thread Silent Spike
樂 A lot of interesting input, thanks everyone. I see what was meant by processing now. Going by the Merriam-Webster definition of playground ("a piece of land used for and usually equipped with facilities for recreation especially by children") I suppose these do fit. I'm leaning towards changing

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=inflatable_park

2019-03-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Mar 2019, at 18:23, Silent Spike wrote: > > My brain seems averse to the word playground, but perhaps I'm too attached to > that being an outdoor area for children I agree that if they point at adult customers, classifying them as playgrounds seems less

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

2019-03-28 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 13:27:23 -0400 Steven Estes wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/runway_holding_position > > Proposing the addition of runway holding position markings (commonly > called hold lines). Runway holding position markings are painted > markings on an

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

2019-03-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
"Inclusion of these markings will allow applications to warn the pilot prior to entering the runway safety area without permission from air traffic control. " I am pretty sure that OSM is not suitable source of data for maps used by pilots. Can you give examples of countries where it is OK to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

2019-03-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Is it feasible to post https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Public/example.png?role=personal in place accessible to a public? Mar 28, 2019, 6:27 PM by tapes...@gmail.com: > >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=inflatable_park

2019-03-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 28, 2019, 6:23 PM by silentspike...@gmail.com: > However, I would ask for some clarification on what you mean by "special > support to process it". As surely in both cases there is a new tag to be > processed that identifies one of these businesses. > Case 1) This feature is a special

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=inflatable_park

2019-03-28 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:25, Silent Spike wrote: > > However, I would ask for some clarification on what you mean by "special > support to process it". As surely in both cases there is a new tag to be > processed that identifies one of these businesses. > If you go with leisure=playground +

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=inflatable_park

2019-03-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/03/2019 11:21, Silent Spike wrote: My first tagging proposal, came across a few of these facilities and figured it is best to establish a tagging for them as they're growing in popularity: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/inflatable_park Something like this would

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

2019-03-28 Thread Steven Estes
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/runway_holding_position Proposing the addition of runway holding position markings (commonly called hold lines). Runway holding position markings are painted markings on an airport surface that identify the runway safety area. At controlled

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=inflatable_park

2019-03-28 Thread Silent Spike
That seems like it could be a good approach to me. My brain seems averse to the word playground, but perhaps I'm too attached to that being an outdoor area for children. However, I would ask for some clarification on what you mean by "special support to process it". As surely in both cases there

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-28 Thread EthnicFood IsGreat
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 08:40:09 +0100 From: Topographe Fou To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along Hi, Personnaly I already use amenity=* for the whole plot/complex when it's clear it is not limited to a

Re: [Tagging] Bus rapid transit: service=bus vs service=busway vs no service tag

2019-03-28 Thread Fernando Trebien
There haven't been many non-European respondents on this thread, so I sampled some major European cities for usages of service=bus and service=busway. Since BRT systems are more common in France [1] and the UK[ 2], I went a bit deeper on those countries, if you know any I think we should

Re: [Tagging] Bus rapid transit: service=bus vs service=busway vs no service tag

2019-03-28 Thread Fernando Trebien
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 10:48 PM Agustin Rissoli wrote: > In the wiki of bus lanes say: > For dedicated, separate bus tracks, use highway=service, access=no, > psv=designated (or psv=yes). > I think it's correct > I usually use bus=designated in my area since taxis are not allowed, I also > add

Re: [Tagging] shop=plumber vs shop=plumbing vs shop=plumbing_supplies

2019-03-28 Thread ael via Tagging
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 08:19:16AM +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 21:32, ael via Tagging > wrote: > > I invented the shop=trade after a suggestion on this list to consider > > subtags. > > > I was thinking about it & wondered about changing shop=trade to >