Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
26 Jun 2019, 00:01 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > in particular for non-commercial and scientific use > This are not relevant at all, OSM data is not restricted in how it can be used. > I don't know to what extent this is applicable for an international > project such as OSM, but there are

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Marc Gemis
Since OSM is used in commercial products, all exceptions you mention for non-commercial use is not applicable. The debate of many persons copying 1 fact from another database has been discussed in the past, but OSM always tries to err on the safe side. IMHO It would be more damaging to the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
A couple of questions re details. You have: - capacity =* - How many sockets are available? The most common arrangement I've seen in powered camping grounds / caravan parks, is a single post with 4 power points & 4 taps, similar to this

Re: [Tagging] Tagging sockets

2019-06-25 Thread Warin
On 25/06/19 20:36, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 11:05, Michael Brandtner via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: I'd like to separate the discussions about/amenity=power_supply/ (my proposal) and the enhancement/merging of the /socket:/ and /power_supply/

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread Warin
On 25/06/19 21:32, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: I've now rewritten the whole proposal. To prevent overlap, the idea is now to incorporate all devices that provide electrical power under the same main tag. A problem I have not solved yet is how to incorporate the sub-tags of the tags

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 117, Issue 90, topic 1 & 4: Ban of Ulamm by Woodpeck

2019-06-25 Thread bkil
If you could give us a link where we can continue this discussion without being off topic, I'd gladly chime in with my viewpoint. We had dozens of mail threads on our local list in this topic in the past with some good pointers as well. On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 8:01 PM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Christian Müller
Shameless plug: At least in Germany copyright does have limits, so an individual may use/recite/remix parts of a copyrighted work or database, in particular for non-commercial and scientific use - just as it is popular to cite and quote parts of scientific publications in others. See in

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 117, Issue 90, topic 1 & 4: Ban of Ulamm by Woodpeck

2019-06-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25 Jun 2019, 18:34 by ulamm.b...@t-online.de: > We must not publish scans of historical maps as our own work, that could > violate copyright. > But if we use the informations shown in historical maps for free hand > drawings, we do not violate the copyright for maps. > [citation needed] I

Re: [Tagging] Tagging sockets

2019-06-25 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:05 AM Michael Brandtner via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I'd like to separate the discussions about* amenity=power_supply* (my > proposal) and the enhancement/merging of the *socket:* and *power_supply* > key. > > On topic: I think it is important that

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 117, Issue 90, topic 1 & 4: Ban of Ulamm by Woodpeck

2019-06-25 Thread Ulrich Lamm
> > 1. Re: My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm (Mateusz Konieczny) > 4. Re: My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm (Frederik Ramm) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:53:35 +0200 (CEST) > From:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 117, Issue 89 on the ban of Ulamm by Woodpeck

2019-06-25 Thread Ulrich Lamm
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Re: [Tagging] Designated spots for dogs to wait

2019-06-25 Thread Manuel57432997 via Tagging
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:07, Jason wrote: > That was silly of me. It would be better to have > hitching_point=post|rail|loop|hook|yes. > And use hitching_point:for=dog|cat|horse with semicolon multiple values > permitted. > > [...] hitching_point:capacity, hitching_point:material etc can be added

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 12:35, Michael Brandtner via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I've now rewritten the whole proposal. To prevent overlap, the idea is now > to incorporate all devices that provide electrical power under the same > main tag. A problem I have not solved yet is how

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 7:09 AM yo paseopor wrote: > Also when they are a passable, two way road? > BOE-020_Codigo_de_Trafico_y_Seguridad_Vial > Page 50 > Carril. Banda longitudinal en que puede estar subdividida la calzada, > delimitada o no por marcas viales longitudinales, siempre que tenga

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
I've now rewritten the whole proposal. To prevent overlap, the idea is now to incorporate all devices that provide electrical power under the same main tag. A problem I have not solved yet is how to incorporate the sub-tags of the tags that would be marked as deprecated  (mainly

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 11:28, Philip Barnes wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 25 June 2019, Colin Smale wrote: > > On 2019-06-25 11:33, John Sturdy wrote: > > > > > For the "socket" key: I suggest putting the current rating onto the > cee_blue sockets (cee_blue_16a, cee_blue_32a, etc) rather than

Re: [Tagging] Tagging sockets

2019-06-25 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 11:05, Michael Brandtner via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I'd like to separate the discussions about* amenity=power_supply* (my > proposal) and the enhancement/merging of the *socket:* and *power_supply* > key. > It would make things simpler. Simple

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tuesday, 25 June 2019, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-06-25 11:33, John Sturdy wrote: > > > For the "socket" key: I suggest putting the current rating onto the > > cee_blue sockets (cee_blue_16a, cee_blue_32a, etc) rather than limiting it > > to one rating; this will also make it consistent

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hello Ulrich, this is offtopic here but I'd like to say something anyway since you started the discussion here. Your are blocked from editing until we can trust you to respect our rules. This is a process that has to happen in your head. I would have hoped that you understood the issue but time

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread John Sturdy
I've seen such a station powered by solar panels on its roof; I didn't investigate whether it has internal batteries for use outside of sunlight hours, but it might be worth adding a tag for the power source for cases like that. On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:49 AM bkil wrote: > This is what you are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-25 11:33, John Sturdy wrote: > For the "socket" key: I suggest putting the current rating onto the cee_blue > sockets (cee_blue_16a, cee_blue_32a, etc) rather than limiting it to one > rating; this will also make it consistent with the cee_red_* sockets. Not to forget that the

[Tagging] Tagging sockets

2019-06-25 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
I'd like to separate the discussions about amenity=power_supply (my proposal) and the enhancement/merging of the socket: and power_supply key. On topic: I think it is important that information can be added by looking at the device. This means that in my opinion socket:cee_blue= and

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25 Jun 2019, 11:18 by f...@zz.de: > > Hi Ulrich, > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:16:18AM +0200, Ulrich Lamm wrote: > >> This way, my mapping of courses of water including the culvert >> sections does not violate the principles of OSM. And the ban is >> totally injust. >> > > It violates the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread John Sturdy
For the "socket" key: I suggest putting the current rating onto the cee_blue sockets (cee_blue_16a, cee_blue_32a, etc) rather than limiting it to one rating; this will also make it consistent with the cee_red_* sockets. Also, BS1363 (UK, Ireland, and quite a few other countries --- see

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi Ulrich, On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:16:18AM +0200, Ulrich Lamm wrote: > This way, my mapping of courses of water including the culvert > sections does not violate the principles of OSM. And the ban is > totally injust. It violates the rights of the origin copyright holder. CC-BY-SA and

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 25 June 2019, Ulrich Lamm wrote: > Ten hours ago, user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm has banned me for TEN > YAERS! For what? > For mapping courses of water. > Before, he had blocked me or using database data. > [...] For competeness of information and for everyone to properly assess this,

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Simon Poole
Besides being off-topic here, 99.9% of the background is missing. Perma-bans for contributors in OSM are extremely rare and definitely not imposed lightly, just as they are not in this case: see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ulamm/blocks for just a tiny bit of the very long story behind this.

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread marc marc
Le 25.06.19 à 10:16, Ulrich Lamm a écrit : > the ban is totally injust. add injust=maybe or find a better place to talk about not-related-to-tags stuff ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 01:23:35 +0100 Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 23:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 04:53, Paul Allen wrote: > > > >> Having power_supply=yes indicates that the socket type is unknown, > >> > > > > But wouldn't that default as

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 24.06.2019 um 13:57 schrieb Nita S. : > > Some roads have formal lane markings ( in which case the number of lanes will > be obvious) and other road types have informal (i.e. none) lane markings. even with markings it is not always clear, I know places with

[Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Ulrich Lamm
Ten hours ago, user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm has banned me for TEN YAERS! For what? For mapping courses of water. Before, he had blocked me or using database data. I ceased to enter figures that were available from databasaes only. Then he blocked me for using figures from PDFs that could be