Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 12:50 PM Erkin Alp Güney wrote: > No, that is highway=road. highway=unclassified is one grade above that. > highway=road tends to be most typically used to indicate that there is a traversable path of unknown quality, or a temporary road in a construction zone. These tend to be aggressively reclassified or removed as surveys happen or temporary roads get removed after they're no longer needed. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 1:51 PM Erkin Alp Güney wrote: > > No, that is highway=road. highway=unclassified is one grade above that. Locally to me, `highway=road` is pretty much synonymous with 'needs a field survey'; we consider it as an interim tag for something that's not otherwise identified. The only thing we have between `unclassified` and `track` is `service`. -- 73 de ke9tv/2, Kevin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,
No, that is highway=road. highway=unclassified is one grade above that. 26.12.2019 21:39 tarihinde yo paseopor yazdı: > > In a country like Zambia or Congo unclassified would be the worst > condition road you can find in that country (but not track), so only > local community people (or people who live in that country) would know > what are the worst conditions you can find in their country. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,
First problem for classifications is the reason of the classification. What is this reason: administrative laws (with their political facts to keep in mind) or physical conditions (the best for the performance of the vehicles you would have in this road)? Second problem is the reality of the country: If you are in the country with the biggest budget in motorways you will be sure some secondary will have two lane roads and bridges without crossings. If you are in a country major part of your population will not have assured every day's meal main road would be an asphalted road or sand track. But the number of grade classifications are the same wherever you go: four to six grades (1-trunk,2-primary,3-secondary,4-tertiary,5-unclassified,6-track) . My option would be a physical classification based on the state of the country. Only motorway would be apart of this classification because a motorway is the same here than in other countries. Here in Europe you can find the administrative grades at the reference of the road (N- ,Regional- , Province- in Spain; N-, D- in France; B , L in Austria; ...). In a country like Spain trunk would be a road with 100 km/h medium speed and no crossings at the same level with restriction for cycles . In a country like Zambia or Congo trunk would be the best conditions road you can find in that country , so only local community people (or people who live in that country) would know what are the best conditions you can find in their country. In a country like Spain unclassified would be the municipality asphalted tracks, with no more than 3 meters width (for one car). In a country like Zambia or Congo unclassified would be the worst condition road you can find in that country (but not track), so only local community people (or people who live in that country) would know what are the worst conditions you can find in their country. I know Spain because I am Spaniard and I travel through Europe , so I think in the European Union things would be similar. Local communitters can explain in this list what are the best and the worst conditions for the roads in their countries and their opinion about the other grades. I don't have any knowledge about Zambia or Congo so I think other people would have more knowledge than I can have about their countries. What are your opinions? What do you think? Salut i mapes (Health and Maps) yopaseopor On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 11:41 AM Fernando Trebien < fernando.treb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 20 Dec 2019, 19:05 Graeme Fitzpatrick, > wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 19:18, Martin Koppenhoefer >> wrote: >> >>> lanes=2 >>> surface=unpaved >>> >> >> But would they still count as either =trunk or =primary? >> >> While they're of high local importance, they're definitely not >> high-performance & they don't link major population centres either? >> > > That's exactly the problem we had in Brazil while trying to prescribe > classification from physical characteristics from roads. > > It may be worth checking what are popular commercial (paper or digital) > maps doing regarding the classification of highways and streets. > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Question parking:condition day value
Hi, you didn't mention a relevant wiki page with comprehensive grammar for time ranges:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hoursThe "Conditional restrictions" wiki page legitimizes "Time and date" condition in the format of opening_hours. According to the "monthly" rule for opening_hours, you may specify only monthdays range: "01-15" or "16-31". As far as I succeeded in the grammar interpretation, these are valid opening_hours values. The evaluation_tool cannot parse "01-15" (wanna commit an issue?), yet this should not prevent you from using documentation-complying format. This proposal:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Time_domainssuggests "day" keyword, but, as you can make sure, "day 01-15" is recognized neither. I think you should not use this not approved syntax. -- Best regards,Alexey 23.12.2019, 19:51, "Jakka" :* Belgian road sign can forbid to park on the left/right side of ahighway from day "first until fifteen" and from day "sixteen untilthirty-one"* What is the correct format. using opening_hours?* parking:condition:right= no @ (.)* parking:condition:left= no @ (.)* sign links* https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium#E5* https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium#E7* https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium#E11* https://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/* https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane* https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions___Tagging mailing listTagging@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Question parking:condition day value
* parking:condition:right= no @ (.) * parking:condition:left= no @ (.) I would rather use * parking:right:conditional= yes @ (.) * parking:left:conditional= yes @ (.) (1) condition -> conditional (2) conditional should be at the end (suffix) (3) I think it is better to misleadingly describe parkings as missing rather than misleadingly describe them as present 23 Dec 2019, 17:43 by vdmfrank...@gmail.com: > * Belgian road sign can forbid to park on the left/right side of a highway > from day "first until fifteen" and from day "sixteen until thirty-one" > * What is the correct format. using opening_hours? > * parking:condition:right= no @ (.) > * parking:condition:left= no @ (.) > * sign links > * https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium#E5 > * https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium#E7 > * https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium#E11 > > * https://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/ > * https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane > * https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
