Re: [Tagging] What language is the name tag value? Was: Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-26 Thread André Pirard
On 27/03/2020 00.51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 26. Mar 2020, at 23:54, Tod Fitch wrote: 2. Create a scheme where a default language can be set on boundaries as has been suggested by Joseph Eisenberg [4]. This has the

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Overhead lines management (consecutive to line_attachment)

2020-03-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
The explanation of line_management=branch is not very clear: "==Loops are actual branches== Former undocumented key {{Tag|branch:type}} had a value for connections between several power lines coming from the same direction: ''loop''. "It is proposed to consider them as branches due to

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Overhead lines management (consecutive to line_attachment)

2020-03-26 Thread François Lacombe
Hi all, The line_management=* proposal vote will be open starting on next Monday. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Lines_management Clarifications and improvements have been made as follow : * Focus on power only and remove telecom usecase. Proposed terminology is generic

Re: [Tagging] What language is the name tag value? Was: Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Note that there were several rejected proposals before mine, including these two by Sommerluk: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information_for_name (name:language=*) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information (language:*=*) And note

Re: [Tagging] What language is the name tag value? Was: Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Mar 2020, at 23:54, Tod Fitch wrote: > > 2. Create a scheme where a default language can be set on boundaries as has > been suggested by Joseph Eisenberg [4]. This has the advantage that > relatively few objects need to be tagged, for example it might be possible

Re: [Tagging] What language is the name tag value? Was: Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-26 Thread Tod Fitch
I was blissfully unaware of the issues involved in creating a bilingual map (dual labeled in the local language and in my language) until I actually tried to create one. Most objects in OSM do not have name: tags for non-local languages and it is unreasonable to expect that every named

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-26 Thread Phake Nick
Names in OSM map is to show the world reader what each objects are. Unlike Wikipedia and Wikidata, OSM map everything on the ground. Let assume the world's common language is now priparaish, and English is now only spoken by a small insignificant African tribe, and is also the only language in the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:locked

2020-03-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Some tags have been approved which allow for adding such details under the barrier:-tag, e.g. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:barrier:personnel This is the original proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?oldid=840159#Combinations_.2F_Subtags Unfortunately, the other

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 25. März 2020 um 15:23 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > > "if the name is otherwise regarded correct by mainstream media or a > language authority." > > In that case, please add it to wikidata with a reference, but it would > not be appropriate for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

2020-03-26 Thread European Water Project
Hi Joseph, Would segregation of data via a namespace tagging solution, as an alternative to using place=refugee_site, address these concerns regarding fuzzy "place" boundaries and the lack of observability (ie source based descriptive data)? Best regards, Stuart On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 00:40

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-26 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 26/3/20 2:05 pm, Warin wrote: Some tags used at present are; alt_nameAyers Rock alt_name:cs Ayersova skála alt_name:en Ayers Rock nameUluṟu That's odd. The big red rock in the middle of Australia is called Uluru / Ayers Rock

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-26 Thread Warin
On 25/3/20 10:30 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mi., 25. März 2020 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Frederik Ramm mailto:frede...@remote.org>>: In my opinion, a name:xx tag should only be added if you can demonstrate that people natively speaking the living language xx are actually

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-26 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 3/25/20 04:26, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Yesterday someone added a few dozen Klingon names to countries in OSM. I > have reverted that because of a copyright issue, but I think we also > need to discuss which languages we want to accept for name:xx tags. This is OpenStreetMap, not

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> If the current name:pjt=Uluṟu is retained in addition to the name=Uluṟu tag, > I could determine the name is in the pjt language In this case, but what if it was name=Uluru, name:en=Uluru, name:cs= Uluru? Now we have to guess that English is the default language in Australia... but what if the