Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:shelter_type=rock_shelter

2020-09-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Sep 5, 2020, 03:37 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > > > > On 9/4/2020 6:24 PM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > >> Sep 4, 2020, 18:19 by >> tagging@openstreetmap.org>> : >> >>> node and discovered the shelter_type=rock_shelter subtag, but the >>> map in >>> question didn't r

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:shelter_type=rock_shelter

2020-09-04 Thread Andrew Harvey
All good feedback so far, it's pleasing to see I'm not the only one interested in tagging these features. On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 11:38, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: > Assuming that I located the correct crack, it was undoubtedly a case of > overzealous tagging. The problem I see is that the definitio

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:shelter_type=rock_shelter

2020-09-04 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 9/4/2020 6:24 PM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Sep 4, 2020, 18:19 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: node and discovered the shelter_type=rock_shelter subtag, but the map in question didn't render it any differently. Revisiting the site in fair weather, I found a tiny crac

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:shelter_type=rock_shelter

2020-09-04 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 01:23, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > "A cave you might need a torch to explore" - note that caves may be > smaller. > > In fact, some cave classifications have separate categories for caves > small enough/open enough to be fully lit by sun and at least some consider > rock shel

Re: [Tagging] Biker’s rests

2020-09-04 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
In US English we seem to call these “leaning rails”, but they are fairly new. I’m not sure what term is correct in British English. Since they are distinctive features, they can be mapped, perhaps using the man_made= key. -Joseph Eisenberg On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:46 AM Grzegorz Szymaszek wrot

Re: [Tagging] Biker’s rests

2020-09-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Sep 4, 2020, 19:45 by gszymas...@short.pl: > Hi, > > At some bicycle crossings in some cities there are “biker’s rests” > installed that cyclists can support on while waiting for the green > light. They look like [1], [2], or [3]. > > I could not find any existing tag for this furniture. Do you

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:shelter_type=rock_shelter

2020-09-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Sep 5, 2020, 00:45 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > Am Fr., 4. Sept. 2020 um 22:21 Uhr schrieb Tom Pfeifer <> > t.pfei...@computer.org> >: > >> On 04.09.2020 18:19, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: >> >> >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:shelter_type%3Drock_shelter >>

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:shelter_type=rock_shelter

2020-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 4. Sept. 2020 um 22:21 Uhr schrieb Tom Pfeifer < t.pfei...@computer.org>: > On 04.09.2020 18:19, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:shelter_type%3Drock_shelter > >> > > > > I'd suggest natural=rock_shelter as a replacement tag. > > +1

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:shelter_type=rock_shelter

2020-09-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Sep 4, 2020, 18:19 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > node and discovered the shelter_type=rock_shelter subtag, but the map in > question didn't render it any differently. Revisiting the site in fair > weather, I found a tiny crack under a ledge that *might* have kept a > child dry. It was very satis

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread Allroads
It is important to mention the website with the embedded stream. But also the stream itself for direct use. url:m3u8=* Sometimes multiple different extension streams are available for different kind off devices. Such as radio stations with a webcam stream. Live streams. Image streams with from

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 9/4/2020 3:45 PM, Paul Allen wrote: A surveillance cam isn't a "contact" and contact:* is STILL a stupid idea. Oh, and what's wrong with url=*?  Especially as the wiki page endorses it. Nb, the link to the "Surveillance under Surveillance" project that you quoted doesn't mention the url=* t

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread bkil
The problem with url=* is (as per my talk page comment) that you can tag the camera as contact:webcam (or whatever, as said I don't like it either, I'm just using it), while you may tag the operator's website as contact:website without causing any confusion. If you only had a single link in url=*,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:shelter_type=rock_shelter

2020-09-04 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 04.09.2020 18:19, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:shelter_type%3Drock_shelter I'd suggest natural=rock_shelter as a replacement tag. +1 for going into the natural key My expectations to amenity=shelter would be something purpose-built, wh

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 20:40, bkil wrote: > "contact" can mean one-way contact, as in "on what channel does this POI > broadcast information for us?" Note that except contact:email, most > other links are also used oneway in 99% of the time. > In my dialect of English there is an expectation that

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread bkil
"contact" can mean one-way contact, as in "on what channel does this POI broadcast information for us?" Note that except contact:email, most other links are also used oneway in 99% of the time. On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:34 PM Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 20:13, bkil wrote: > >> I al

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 20:13, bkil wrote: > I also raised this question some years ago on the talk page but went with > the flow and continued to tag webcams with contact:webcam=*. I think it > makes more sense if you see a static gallery of a venue specified under > contact:flickr=*, prerecorded

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread bkil
I also raised this question some years ago on the talk page but went with the flow and continued to tag webcams with contact:webcam=*. I think it makes more sense if you see a static gallery of a venue specified under contact:flickr=*, prerecorded videos under contact:youtube=* and you can also che

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Sep 2020, at 20:29, Jmapb wrote: > > If I were proposing a tag, I'd probably say `camera:url` or `webcam:url`. But > `contact:webcam` is documented and in popular use all over the world. I am not saying a webcam is never a means to contact someone, but it isn’t a

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 9/4/2020 2:10 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Fr., 4. Sept. 2020 um 19:03 Uhr schrieb Jmapb via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>>: On 9/4/2020 11:34 AM, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: > The "See also" section of that page seems to suggest the undocumented > tag `contact:w

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 4. Sept. 2020 um 19:03 Uhr schrieb Jmapb via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > On 9/4/2020 11:34 AM, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: > > The "See also" section of that page seems to suggest the undocumented > > tag `contact:webcam` for this purpose. > > (Mea culpa, contact:webcam is indeed

[Tagging] Biker’s rests

2020-09-04 Thread Grzegorz Szymaszek
Hi, At some bicycle crossings in some cities there are “biker’s rests” installed that cyclists can support on while waiting for the green light. They look like [1], [2], or [3]. I could not find any existing tag for this furniture. Do you know of any way of tagging them? Do you consider them wort

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 9/4/2020 11:34 AM, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: The "See also" section of that page seems to suggest the undocumented tag `contact:webcam` for this purpose. (Mea culpa, contact:webcam is indeed documented on the contact page.) ___ Tagging mailing lis

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:shelter_type=rock_shelter

2020-09-04 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 9/3/2020 11:51 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: I've created a proposal to formalise shelter_type=rock_shelter, while currently in-use, there is disagreement within the community on if this tag should be used and features are commonly mis-tagged. So I'm hoping with this proposal and voting we can com

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 9/4/2020 11:08 AM, dktue wrote: Hi, I'd like to tag the link to the (current) JPEG-image of a webcam, but the wiki doesn't state how to do so [1]. Any suggestions how to tag this? Cheers, dktue [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsurveillance The "See also" section of

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Sep 2020, at 17:10, dktue wrote: > > Any suggestions how to tag this? maybe „url“ or „surveillance:url“? Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 16:10, dktue wrote: > > [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsurveillance > > From that wikie page, under "Rendering" Surveillance is rendered on: - https://sunders.uber.space/ (with info pop ups, even with a live image if URL provided

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:shelter_type=rock_shelter

2020-09-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
"A cave you might need a torch to explore" - note that caves may be smaller. In fact, some cave classifications have separate categories for caves small enough/open enough to be fully lit by sun and at least some consider rock shelters to be a type of cave. Sep 4, 2020, 05:51 by andrew.harv...@g

[Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

2020-09-04 Thread dktue
Hi, I'd like to tag the link to the (current) JPEG-image of a webcam, but the wiki doesn't state how to do so [1]. Any suggestions how to tag this? Cheers, dktue [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsurveillance ___ Tagging maili

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Takeaway drinks shops

2020-09-04 Thread 德泉 談 via Tagging
Hi All, In the previous mail I post a proposal which was copied and pasted from my older bubble tea proposal, and I found that there were couple of mistakes. So I edited it and add some additional contents. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Takeaway_drink_shops This tag is n