Re: [Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Oct 13, 2020, 01:39 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > For me "there simply is not enough community consensus to move forward with > the change." is the issue because you can effectively lock out certain valid > things from being mapped and consumed in a standard way because there is no > large

Re: [Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread Joseph Guillaume
The statement I disagree with is that "We shouldn’t be in a situation where there is no approved way to map a mapable feature just because the community doesn’t agree completely on how to map it." Nobody needs approval to map anything in OSM, so approval only really matters when there is a conflic

Re: [Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread stevea
Majorities can be built with reason and well-written proposals. They really can. This is where and when OSM can be at its best. Am I saying "rig an election" or "throw votes in an unethical manner"? Of course not. I'm talking about building real grass-roots support for good ideas that are w

Re: [Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 10:29, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > With the exception of the "plurality votes wins" aspect of this, it > strikes me that this can largely be done today. Someone could post a wiki > page with multiple alternatives and ask the community to vote/comment on > different taggi

Re: [Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
With the exception of the "plurality votes wins" aspect of this, it strikes me that this can largely be done today. Someone could post a wiki page with multiple alternatives and ask the community to vote/comment on different tagging schemes. Once a winner emerges, the author could then move that

Re: [Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 3:20 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > I wrote about changing from a for/against vote to a pick your preferred > option at https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aharvey/diary/394419 > > Interested to hear what others think about this. > Andrew, This doesn't really answer your questi

Re: [Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 09:36, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 23:23, Andrew Harvey > wrote: > >> I wrote about changing from a for/against vote to a pick your preferred >> option at https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aharvey/diary/394419 >> >> Interested to hear what others think ab

Re: [Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread Paul Allen
Apologies for previous incomplete message. I hate the keyboard on this laptop, which seems to interpret simultaneous depresion of some combination of control, shift and function keys on the left as "send mail." Grrr. On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 23:23, Andrew Harvey > wrote:I wrote about changing fr

Re: [Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 23:23, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I wrote about changing from a for/against vote to a pick your preferred > option at https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aharvey/diary/394419 > > Interested to hear what others think about this. > There are inherent problems when using first-pas

[Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread Andrew Harvey
I wrote about changing from a for/against vote to a pick your preferred option at https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aharvey/diary/394419 Interested to hear what others think about this. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.op

[Tagging] Minibus routes

2020-10-12 Thread Michael Tsang
Dear all, I'm looking for community consensus about minibus routes (public transport routes which are operated by light passenger vehicles of roughly 8 to 20 seats with no standing allowed in general). As of present, there are two kinds of tagging for minibus routes: A. route=minibus (~30 rout

Re: [Tagging] Unverfied Edits, Reverting Tags

2020-10-12 Thread Clay Smalley
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 10:31 AM Hartmut Holzgraefe < hartmut.holzgra...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2020-10-12 15:51, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote: > > DWG and the foundation, are not in the verification and editing > > business, so who is ?, under penalty of banning. > > > context? > He got banne

Re: [Tagging] Unverfied Edits, Reverting Tags

2020-10-12 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
On 2020-10-12 15:51, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote: > DWG and the foundation, are not in the verification and editing > business, so who is ?, under penalty of banning. context? -- hartmut ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https:

[Tagging] Unverfied Edits, Reverting Tags

2020-10-12 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging
DWG and the foundation, are not in the verification and editing business, so who is ?, under penalty of banning.    ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How do you map traffic signals where right or left turns are allowed or not allowed on a red light?

2020-10-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 11. Oct 2020, at 18:15, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > I wonder if "red turn" is a translation from German or another language? there is no straight turn in German, not even a u-turn is a “turn” in German, so if this was invented in Germany it has not to do with trans