Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

It seems that many mappers associate words like "island" or "traffic island" > > with an area on a road that is enclosed by a white line and > > maybe hatched lines ("schraffiert") > I only consider an island if it elevated and tag it as traffic_calming=island. If it's painted on, I do not map it a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

> Example for keep clear: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13820411 > This seems to be the only instance of highway=keep_clear in OSM (according to taginfo). This is a common horizontal road sign in the UK. It indicates tht vehicles should not anter the cross-hatched area if the traffic situa

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

Gerd, if you are talking only about your specific example, I would say that in this specific case we have normal roundabout which has been adapted for the situation of the harbour area where the centre piece has no rigid border, but it's certainly not flat. It seems also the islands in he roads co

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

The reason why we have two different mapping approaches for mini-roundabout and roundabout is that at least in one country (that happens to be the birth-country of OSM) there is a clear distinction between the two with different road layouts (see https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads

Re: [Tagging] improve tagging of traffic_calming

I routinely use the combination of highway=crossing crossing=uncontrolled traffic_calming=table or traffic_calming=hump example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1463764436 http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/tfK5PNthYcyeahBz_dXqeg/photo For these combined features the synthax highway=traffic_calmin

[Tagging] bicycle=use_sidepath applicable to bicycle lanes?

Two situtions where I have doubts on correct tagging A) In the case of a road with two cycle lanes with mandatory use (they do have the official cycle path signs - case L1a in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle) how do I tag correctly the mandatory use on the highway: 1) by bicycle=use_sid

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=use_sidepath applicable to bicycle lanes?

Thanks for the two fast replies. n answer to my first question you both suggest to map a bicycle lane (which is separated from the main carriageway only by a white painted line) as a separate way. To me this seems not correct. We apply always the rule to map as separate ways only ways that are sepa

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=use_sidepath applicable to bicycle lanes?

As Andy suggested to me in a separate mail here a link to the first situation: case L1a in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle Mapillary example: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/3wfpqOM-VrIo8qY-pCnxJw/photo For the second situation I can only offer the example M3a (by error the number was

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=use_sidepath applicable to bicycle lanes?

can you define what a compulsory cycle lane means? Is it that when cycling > on the road you have to use this lane? Or that you aren't allowed to use > any other nearby way if you are on a bike? How far is the range of this > prescription? > I should have added at the beginning of this thread that

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=use_sidepath applicable to bicycle lanes?

ructed by trash collection containers and fallen leaves. The map should contain that data (the trash container and the leaves go into a separate crowdmap). On 27 November 2015 at 11:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2015-11-27 10:50 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt : > >> I should have

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=use_sidepath applicable to bicycle lanes?

@Martin "loro riservate" (reserved for them): does this mean that combined > foot/cycleways are not compulsory, because they are not reserved for > bicycles? > These combined foot-cycle-ways in Italy are legally really pedestrian sidewalks on which cyclists are tolerated (implicit speed limit fo 1

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=use_sidepath applicable to bicycle lanes?

't even include other reasons for splitting up a way. Yours Hubert. On 27. November 2015 12:30 Volker Schmidt [mailto:vosc...@gmail.com] wrote: > Martin, one of the purposes of my detailed mapping (attempts) is that I want to produce a map that can be used to improve the cycling infra

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=use_sidepath applicable to bicycle lanes?

I'm not sure either. The crossings are a bit unclear, there are only > pedestrian crossings, and the cycleway explicitly starts after the > crossing, Formally the crossing is bicycle dismount, but, as the cycleway ends and re-starts at the pedestrian crossing, by the wonders of the Italian laws/ru

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=use_sidepath applicable to bicycle lanes?

> > One question, if cyclelane use is compulory, are you allowed to not use > it if you are overtaking slower cyclists? > > In Italy there are two answers: 1) legally no. I asked that question explicitly to an expert friend. Worse: if the cycle lane is blocked by an illeglly parked vehicle, you hav

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=use_sidepath applicable to bicycle lanes?

signed bike lane). May also be joined > with something like, motor_vehicle:lanes=yes|yes|yes|no to exclude > motorists from the far right lane... > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 4:35 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> Two situtions where I have doubts on correct tagging >> >

[Tagging] parking for motorcycles AND bicycles

We have: amenity=parking (which assumes cars as vehicles) amenity=motorcycle_parking amenity=bicycle_parking We are apparently lacking a proper tag for mixed bicycle and motorbicycle parking. What about amenity=parking motorcar=no motorcycle=yes bicycle=yes ? __

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

I always thought that an Art Gallery is a specific type of museum, i.e. an Art Museum. It can also mean a shop that exhibits and sells art. Hence tourism=gallery seems a good way indicate an Art Museum or Art Gallery, in line with tourism=museum. A shop that exhibits art with the main aim of sellin

Re: [Tagging] Path with permit required for bikes?

I received this information from the ACA [1] " CAMP PENDLETON ACCESS The Routes & Mapping Department has been alerted to a change coming to the Pacific Coast Route in Southern California. Beginning March 1, 2016, Camp Pendleton will require cyclists to be pre-registered to ride across the base. "Ou

Re: [Tagging] Path with permit required for bikes?

In my view tou cannot put private and permissive access at the same time - they are mutually exclusive. Anyway in the specific case the situation is more complicated: From 01-03 2016 the access situation for cyclists at Camp Pendleton will change. If you are a US citizen with a clean criminal rec

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

The British English term for such a place is pick-your-own farm [1]. But I cannot find any tagging in Taginfo. Maybe shop=pick_your_own added to the farm? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Pick_and_Pick-Your-Own_%28PYO%29_Farms) On 13 February 2016 at 09:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > s

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

or in a shop) and picking the fruit from the plant. On 13 February 2016 at 11:27, johnw wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Maybe shop=pick_your_own added to the farm? > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Pick_and_Pick-Your-Own_%28PYO%29_F

Re: [Tagging] Wharf

Wharf (US English) and Quay (British English) seem to be equivalent and describe a fixed structure that has land on one side and water on the other, but the French môle or brise-lames is different: it is a structure that protrudes into the water, but is normally narrow and often there is not even a

Re: [Tagging] furniture maker

According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Craft craft=joiner corresponds to Bauschreiner in German craft=cabinet_maker corresponds to Moebelschreiner in German. And a craftsman who does both, as is the typical case in many countries of the world? craft=carpenter? or craft=j

[Tagging] Which access tag for school buses?

I m looking for an access tag for school buses. In the specific case I want to tag "no access for buses except school buses" My tagging would be tourist_bus=no (no private busses) bus=no (no public transport buses) school_bus=yes But "school_bus" is used only a few times. The only thing I found is

Re: [Tagging] Should greenhouse et al have building=yes? (was building=digester)

I am surprised by his long discussion Two (extreme) examples: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70186603/ amenity=greenhouse building=no http://www.ortobotanicopd.it/il-giardino-della-biodiversit%C3%A0 amenity=greenhouse building=yes The two tags are orthogonal. On 22 May 2016 at 07:

Re: [Tagging] Layer and highway=steps

"layer" is not relevant here. The "layer" tag is only used to indicate the relative vertical position of the object with respect to other objects. So steps would only have a layer tag if they are crossing another way, but not connecting to it. To indicate the up or down direction of steps, you can

Re: [Tagging] waterway=fairway?

How are nautical channels ("fairways") tagged of OpenSeaMap. I could not find out at first glance, but they for sure must have same tags for that. On 17 July 2016 at 19:29, Maarten Deen wrote: > I'm seeing some ways tagged with waterway=fairway in the Netherlands. Some > examples: > https://www

Re: [Tagging] tourism=attraction

Good idea! On 18 July 2016 at 21:30, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > what about making tourism=attraction a flag? Like attraction=yes/no or > tourist_attraction=yes/no? > > > Reason is that otherwise you can't flag stuff in the tourism namespace as > attractions > > > cheers, > Martin > ___

Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

If you only want to use it when driving a car, why not consider a cheap Garmin car navigation device. The Lambertus maps on nuvi 55 show maxspeed, as far as I recollect. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - flight route

This is a complex issue. Lets start from the end user's point of view: Flight number XXxxx is sold by airline XX and goes from airport ABC to airport XYZ, possibly with scheduled intermediate stops at airport DEF (and possibly more). That flight is operated by the same airline or by another airline

Re: [Tagging] better mapping for embankments / slopes

If you want to micromap slopes you should create a new key "slope" or something similar. An embankment has two slopes. It is equivalent to dyke or levee. The one-side embankments that are defined in the OSM wiki, are in reality slopes and should be retagged accordingly. Independently of the name u

Re: [Tagging] better mapping for embankments / slopes

zy they are features that should be mapped. Definition? Something for a geologist? Along the lines of the line formed by the intersection of the average slope of land before the change to the average slope of land after the change ( the change being the cliff, embankment or cutting)? On 30-Nov-16 0

Re: [Tagging] better mapping for embankments / slopes

> > 'Embankment' is frequently used for a built-up structure on a steep > hillside that keeps a road, railroad, or similar feature from sliding into > a gorge or river. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > Embankment_%28transportation%29#/media/File:Embankment_1_%28PSF%29.png > for an illustration

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

The situation in Italy is similar. In my area (Veneto) they are mostly tagged as amenity=cafe, I suppose that is because this is the most frequently served item. For me, the the English word "pub" indicates a place where the most frequently served item is beer, not food. __

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

The correct tagging would certainly be "amenity" with several values, separated by semicolons. That's allowed by the osm data structure. We (try to) avoid it because of the inherent problems with the subsequent rendering. Maybe we could do it in the way the ingredients are listed on food stuff: a

Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction

This is interesting and closely related to the question how we tag, on two-way roads, continuous middle lines (or double continuous middle lines) that imply continuous stretches of road with "no-u-turn", no passing/overtaking, and "no-left-turn" (in countries with right-hand traffic). In addition t

Re: [Tagging] landuse=logging

Maybe landuse=logging is used to indicate a tree plantation for logging as opposed to a forest where wood production is not the main purpose. On 5 Jan 2017 9:22 p.m., "Martin Koppenhoefer" wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 5 Jan 2017, at 20:30, Daniel Koć wrote: > > > > What are your prop

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=grass - boots on change to wiki

Please remember that the wiki is intended to document what the common use is, not what the common use should be. If you want to change the common use please use the available discussion channels before changing the wiki. Volker On 9 January 2017 at 02:28, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > H

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

Please remember that the wiki is intended to document what the common use is, not what the common use should be. If you want to change the common use please use the available discussion channels before changing the wiki. Volker On 9 January 2017 at 01:42, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > O

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

I have locally many near vertical exposed rock features of which even locals don't know if they are man-made or natural. In reality they are all man-made, but some date probably back to the Roman Empire. With other words, this discussion is sterile. On 10 Jan 2017 10:49 a.m., "Zecke" wrote: > >

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

@Marc Zoutendijk thanks for the photos. I agree with all of them as leisure=garden, except for the bottom right one. From the photo it is not clear whether this is spontaneous vegetation or planted vegetation. Only n the latter case I would accept the garden concept On 11 January 2017 at 10:56,

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

leisure=garden AND access=no is in use and makes sense in at least some of these cases. Example 1: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/415758264#map=19/45.28172/11.86906 https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/YpCZViSYxsck1Y--w1yoFw https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/I19C6pBr9Bz9nUzXysWS3A Example 2 http://ww

Re: [Tagging] ref:forward and ref:backward?

I was advocating forward/backward on bicycle routes, but with the appearance of so many roundabouts and one-way streets in agglomerations (at least here in Italy), I now tend to suggest the two-relations approach. Off course, the two approaches can coexist. On 12 January 2017 at 15:55, Jo wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

In Texas I have encountered several large beef fattening stations (I don't know the correct term) where beef are fed in enclosures to get them ready for slaughter. One of these can be seen here: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=35.20605738427332&lng=-102.17724699607997&z=15.61359290919399&focus=m

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

e arguably awful places but the stink is intense, on that we can all > agree. > > > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> In Texas I have encountered several large beef fattening stations (I >> don't know the correct term) where beef are f

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

@Martin: there are two relevant Wikipedia articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feedlot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_animal_feeding_operation @Tod crop=feed_lot does not seem right. Picking up Martin's proposal, what about: landuse=farmyard AND farmyard=feedlot OR farmyard=concent

[Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

I see on the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site the option shop=laundry This does not seem to be appropriate to map caravan sites that offer self-service coin-operated washing machines or dryers (and it seems not to be in use anyway). Is there a common scheme tha

Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

I would like to get this discussion back to my original question. I used about 30 camp or caravan sites in the USA and most of them had self-service coin-operated washers and dryers. These are services like toilets and convenience stores for their customers. You also find these in most US motels. T

Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

I don't think that mapping the capacity of washing machines in campsite laundry facilities is data that is useful in OSM. It's difficult to establish in the first place and the data is very perishable. The machines have a very limited life span. Data maintenance will be a serious problem. On 13 Fe

Re: [Tagging] Dead hedge

A dead hedge is not to be confused with a hedge woven from pieces of wood. It's function is much less that of a barrier than that of a natural habitat for some animal species, especially in the context of organic farming [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_hedge

Re: [Tagging] Missing oneway:bicycle=no

@Martin On 14 February 2017 at 23:40, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > cycleway=opposite* indicates that the cycleway is on the "other" side, > e.g. left of the street in a right side traffic region. This doesn't > require a oneway situation and missing oneway tags are not necessarily an > error >

Re: [Tagging] Center turning lanes: centre_turn_lane=yes method vs. lanes:both_ways method

I like the centre_turn_lane=yes method. But there is also the lanes= x|x|x method as shown on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes Assume I have a 5-lane road with two normal lanes in each direction and a centre-turn lane in the middle (right-hand traffic). The lane directions are: direction

Re: [Tagging] Mapping freeway stub ends?

The original example https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8190845,-76.8530417,857m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en-US is now a set of ways that can be used as non-freeway highways. I would most likely tag them as either service or track with surface and tracktype tags. Important to check on the ground the access ri

Re: [Tagging] EuroVelo tagging

As EV routes are not managed as single entities, every route is split in pieces managed on a country basis. I know the situation in Italy, as I am involved in regional and national cycle routes here. EV routes are handled by BicItalia which is part of FIAB, the "Italian Federation of Friends of the

Re: [Tagging] Positioning motorway exits

This touches on a "conflict of interest" between two requirements: (1) OSM tagging practice is to map only physically separated ways as separate ways in OSM. (2) A routing algorithm needs to have information about legally separated ways, e.g. by a continuous white line. In the specific case the ex

Re: [Tagging] Positioning motorway exits

At present we have many different approaches out in the field, which make life difficult to any routing software. I notice that we have another option, which I have not seen implemented in the database, i.e. to place the exit tag on the highway at the position of the last corresponding road sign

Re: [Tagging] Adding directionality to stop signs

Given the effect of the stopping process on the overall travel time (mainly for cars), we need a way that can be used by routing algorithms. I am inserting them in quantity, but only in the simple way of a node on the way. "My" stop signs apply to the nearest junction. This should in principle allo

Re: [Tagging] Railway: Preserved or historic or railway:preserved?

Any active passenger railway is, among other usages, for tourism. So usage=tourism seems to be redundant. On 12 Apr 2017 00:15, "Wolfgang Zenker" wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not a railway expert, but like to comment anyway. > > * Dave F [170411 23:41]: > > I've a length of railway track that runs alon

Re: [Tagging] Railway: Preserved or historic or railway:preserved?

My error: usage=tourism seems to be correct see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:usage On 12/04/2017 06:54, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Any active passenger railway is, among other usages, for tourism. So > usage=tourism seems to be redundant. > > > <https://ww

Re: [Tagging] water control valves/gates

Sluice gate is correct for open waterways. Valve is the equivalent if the water flows in pipeline. On 21 Apr 2017 14:43, "François Lacombe" wrote: > Hi, > > I wasn't aware of this word too and it's a nice find :) > > Sluice gates won't be used elsewhere than on waterways (even underground > pipe

Re: [Tagging] change recommendation from "depth" to "length" for the adit length?

Is there anyone from the mining industry? I looked a this Wikpedia article [1] and ge confused. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_in_a_well On 11 May 2017 at 10:54, Michal Fabík wrote: > Sounds reasonable to me. If it's horizontal or near-horizontal, depth > makes no sense. > > -- > Micha

Re: [Tagging] siphon underpass

I am looking into how to tag a frequent feature in my area, i.e. a siphon underpass, known in Italian as "botte a sifone" or "botte sifone" and in French as "pont siphon". This is a non.connecting waterway crossing where the lower waterway passes through a U-shaped siphon. The bottom part of the U

Re: [Tagging] siphon underpass

@Javbw how are these tagged? On 8 June 2017 at 17:08, John Willis wrote: > > > > On Jun 8, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > > > flat parts of the world > > Common on irrigation aqueducts/canals/drains both large and small here in > Japan, esp

Re: [Tagging] siphon underpass

n bauten, wird eher *Siphon* genannt." I would prefer to make it a type of tunnel, not a special type of culvert, but I would not insist On 8 June 2017 at 16:54, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > Hi, > > * Volker Schmidt [170608 15:40]: > > I am looking into how to tag a frequent

[Tagging] Traffic training area ("Verkehrsübungsplatz" in German)

Ho to tag such an area? How to tag one for adults (real motor vehicles)? How to tag one for kids (typically on bicycles) Background: I looked in Germany for inspiration and found a myriad of different tagging approaches. I am sure these training facilities exist in other countries, but I have trou

Re: [Tagging] Traffic training area ("Verkehrsübungsplatz" in German)

Andrew Harvey wrote: > >> On 13 June 2017 at 19:34, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> >>> Ho to tag such an area? >>> How to tag one for adults (real motor vehicles)? >>> How to tag one for kids (typically on bicycles) >>> >> For the kids one, some e

Re: [Tagging] beer_garden

"Biergarten" is a Bavarian invention, successfully exported to the entire world. It was originally a very specific arrangement, basically only in Munich: outdoors events where only beer was served at tables placed under trees. No building. No food served and you were expected to bring your own food

[Tagging] Services provided by a travel agency

I am trying to figure out how to tag the services proved by a (small) travel agency. Example: https://www.mapillary.com/app/index/voschix?feedItem=user- qwbAz1RxsvEw5qGBCZsyAQ-activity-user-qwbAz1RxsvEw5qGBCZsyAQ- publishing_done-image%3A1498267281166&pKey=ihU7yrLTHbgWAVyFTlIpvg&lat=45. 2690294852

Re: [Tagging] Services provided by a travel agency

I think you are right on the man tag. :-) This leaves me still with the tagging of the services offered. :-( On 28 June 2017 at 14:32, Philip Barnes wrote: > > > On 28 June 2017 13:07:49 BST, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >I am trying to figure out how to tag the services pro

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of cycleway=no

"cycleway=no" on a highway=XX object means that the road has no cycleway associated with it, i.e. none of the values cycleway=yes|both|left|right|lnane|... To my knowledge the "no" value is not documented. The tag cycleway=no is often applied by ID users and has nesarly 20 uses. On 18 July 201

[Tagging] marine traffic control towers

What's the correct term and tagging for marine traffic control towers or similar buildings? Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: [Tagging] marine traffic control towers

email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#m_-5396702300368368521_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On 30 July 2017 at 08:59, Malcolm Herring wrote: > On 29/07/2017 09:39, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> What's th

Re: [Tagging] marine traffic control towers

I'm aware of a traffic control centre (it's operated by the military and > monitors all kind of traffic in the mediterranean sea, also civilian). I suppose Martin is referring to the marine equivalent of Area Control Centers for air traffic (ACC). But that's different from the structure I have

Re: [Tagging] marine traffic control towers

> There is no marine equivalent of Area Control Centres. > The VTS stations that this thread refers to are usually operated by port > authorities and only control the traffic in their jurisdictions. I am not sure whether "my" tower is a VTS one. It is known locally as "pilots' tower". I have n

Re: [Tagging] width larger than x

I am not aware of a tagging scheme for "width larger than...", but I would lile to point you to the "estimated width" ("est_width=...") that is mentioned on the "width wiki" page. On taginfo it is reported with 76000 uses. On 5 August 2017 at 02:49, marc marc wrote: > Hello, > > How to tag that

Re: [Tagging] Geological Faults

Geological faults should not go into the OSM data base, only visible features should go into OSM. This may include visible features that are caused by geological faults, including, in particular, features that mark such faults on the surface. Specialised maps of geological faults exist and can be c

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

No, also from me. I do not see any use. In addition, it would be repetitive, and from time to time you would have to change them en bloc. On 28 September 2017 at 16:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > 2017-09-19 9:46 GMT+02:00 SwiftFast : > >> Although I agree it's a problem, it's unrelated t

Re: [Tagging] Part of forest which is in a scrub state: inside or outside multipolygon?

Is it (permanently) scrub or is it re-forestation area that is temporarily without trees? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Is linear man_made=pier supposed to be assumed as implying highway=footway, unless tagged otherwise?

The Pier wiki page [1] says in the first sentence: "A [image: Wikipedia-16px.png] pier is a raised walkway". The same wiki page also states: "Lastly, connect the pier with other ways on land, otherwise it will result in a "island" that can't be used for routin

Re: [Tagging] Is linear man_made=pier supposed to be assumed as implying highway=footway, unless tagged otherwise?

My reference was to the osm wiki, which was somehow converted into a link to Wikipedia On 23 Oct 2017 2:33 p.m., "henkevdb" wrote: The definition of 'Pier' on wikipedia is in my opinion not exactly correct. A pier is (usually) 'a long stretched construction on the ground or in a body of water',

Re: [Tagging] building=stands or building=grandstand?

I agree, also for the reason that "stands" is not a term that has the same or similar meaning as "grandstand". On 27 Oct 2017 3:53 p.m., "Martin Koppenhoefer" wrote: > > > 2017-10-27 15:35 GMT+02:00 marc marc : > >> Le 27. 10. 17 à 15:31, Marco Boeringa a écrit : >> >> > Since the new tag has on

Re: [Tagging] building=stands or building=grandstand?

I fear we have been a bit too quick. It looks as if stands and grandstand are different terms for seating around a sports pitch. The Wikipedia page "Stadium" refers several times to "stands" when it talks about seating in a stadium. And the Wikpedia page "Bleacher" is about "bleachers or stands", s

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

In many European countries we have two types of restrictions: (a) Certain roads or road networks require you to carry winter equipment for specific periods (details vary widely) or under certain weather conditions (more or less vaguely defined) (b) Roads may be closed for predefined or variable tim

Re: [Tagging] Religious mural painting

I have tagged in the past these kind of religious paintings as historic=wayside_shrine even though they where not separate buildings. I agree that the mural tagging is better. The only thing I would remove is the denomination tag, which only makes sense for religious buildings. The mural in questio

Re: [Tagging] how to map a fr:talus?

@André: from your verbal description, I would tag it as one-sided embankment. Do you have a photo? On 23 Nov 2017 4:49 p.m., "André Pirard" wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for how to map what is called in French a talus > (Google's translation). > I would call

Re: [Tagging] Road barrier

The wiki appears to clear: barrier=bollard " Implies area=no access=no foot=yes bicycle=yes " On 25 Nov 2017 12:25 a.m., "marc marc" wrote: > Le 25. 11. 17 à 00:05, Selfish Seahorse a écrit : > > > > > > Is barrier = yes

[Tagging] sidewalk unsuitable for wheelchair

When adding sidewalk=yes|left|right to a road, I often encounter situations where wheelchairs can not use the sidewalk. Common causes: - lowered-kerb access missing - trees or lamp posts or traffic signal poles narrow the passage - surface quality is too bad (potholes) I would like to i

Re: [Tagging] sidewalk unsuitable for wheelchair

> The other common reason is the sidewalk is too narrow. > Yes. I suppose that could taken care of by: - width:sidewalk= - width:sidewalk:left|right= The wheelchair routing could evaluate this.

Re: [Tagging] sidewalk unsuitable for wheelchair

Thanks, Tobias for pointing me to the sidewalk additional tagging. I missed that. This addresses my immediate need. Regarding the greater picture, I personally try to get away with not mapping separate sidewalks mainly because of the amount of work involved, whereas I do prefer the separate-way ap

Re: [Tagging] cycleway:both=no in StreetComplete

Wish for the New Year: a world where all streets have cycleways and hence cycleway=no is a useful tag to indicate the few exceptions. More realistically, cycleway=no is useful to indicate that someone has verified there is no cycleway. For example to indicate that the large sidewalk that is clearl

Re: [Tagging] Emergency pull-offs

highway=emergency_bay On 31 Dec 2017 3:53 a.m., "Andrew Harvey" wrote: I'm mapped these as highway=service, interested to hear if anyone has been using a different tag, possibly combined with service=? On 31 Dec. 2017 1:45 pm, "Albert Pundt" wrote: > No, that's a truck escape ramp, which serv

[Tagging] emergency bays - which side?

The tag highway=emergency_bay as node is in use 3700 times, even though it is still only a proposal. How do I indicate the side of the road the EB is serving in the case of a bidirectional road. I could see two valid approaches: direction=forward|backward emergency_bay=right|left It seems that non

Re: [Tagging] emergency bays - which side?

Emergency bays and bus bays are physically very similar, i.e. a short piece of an additional lane on a road. Unfortunately the two tags highway=emergency_bay and bus_bay=both|left|right use very different approaches to describing essential the same physical arrangement. bus_bay=both|left|right

Re: [Tagging] emergency bays - which side?

Similar tagging scheme, yes, but with a big functional difference, that is, they appear on single-lane roads and can be used in both directions, independently of the side of the road they are on. My starting question was specifically for emergency bays on two-lane roads where, typically, you could

Re: [Tagging] tagging for decaying features

... also a dismantled (or razed) railway is often mostly still "there". Have a look at this relation and follow its course on satellite photos. You will see that it is nearly completely still "there", not as railway, obviously, but as vegeta

Re: [Tagging] access=yes|permissive allow all transport modes

Please remove the access=yes it's not irrelevant, it's plain wrong. With the present tagging, e.g. horses appear to be allowed as they are not explicitly forbidden. > I also think that this type of errors is so unimportant that I also > > would not bother with fixing them and I would rather use m

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalks and cycleways as tags vs as extra lines

Filtering out separate cycleways that accompany roads would be plain wrong. A bicycle router should get me on cycleway (and off the road). Double tagging, i.e. cycleway=track on the road plus a separate parallel highway=cycleway is only undesirable. I remove the redundant cycleway=track when I enc

Re: [Tagging] Way access mismatch relation route=bicycle

I suppose Osmose uses the country specific tables in [1] The table for Belgium states that bicycle=no is implicit for "highway=trunk". Hence the short way in question would need to have the additional tag "bicycle=yes" for bicycle routing to pass along that cycle lane. The road signs out there seem

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalks and cycleways as tags vs as extra lines and StreetComplete

Two nice examples of complex cases, which in my view would be best tagged using the cycleway=lane tag *and* separate foot- and cycle-ways (both are at present not yet correctly tagged in OSM) mapillary.com/map/im/kRr5NPEzjLiwDsHWdAL-aw (from lef

Re: [Tagging] power=tower enhancement

l > > deletions a worry. > > > +1 > > I'd suggest to use > power:riser=yes instead of riser=power (to remain compatible if we > should decide to map telco lines as well in the future, so we could > use telecommunication:riser for those). > > cheers, > Martin

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