Re: [Tagging] Is there any case of valid numeric addr:housename - for example addr:housename?

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 09:21 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > Still, even that is > > "Ben Tilly reports on Ten Post Office Sq, Boston MA 02109 USA - which is > not, > reportedly, the same as 10 Post Office Sq, Boston MA 02109 USA." > yes and no. Ben is alas

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

t trap. There are a goodly number of smaller hilltop closed, cylindrical concrete microwave towers in USA, with protected interior stairs, built initially for a survivable phone and classified networks, by AT and WHCA. Concrete, tower, for antennae. But no public observation gallery. -- Bill Ricker b

[Tagging] GPS Altitude Re: Topographic Prominence for Peaks

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:20 AM Colin Smale wrote: > On 2018-09-27 07:17, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > & when you say survey with GPS, is that accurate enough for an altitude > reading? With my Garmin GPS (which admittedly is 10 - 15 years old, but > *wasn't* a cheap one!), I can calibrate it

Re: [Tagging] Topographic Prominence for Peaks

This all seems like highly specialized, technical data that is not of general interest, as no one but peak-baggers understand the technical definition. Many map users seeing this prominence=999m factoid would jump to the incorrect conclusion that it was relative to where the (lower of the)

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

collection of Abstracts -- which i was trying to profiteer on when VP Gore freed it. I'm glad; our marketing dept was made of fail anyway.) If there are countries which for which open-licensed town centers aren't available, the local mapping communities can decide what is right for them. Postoffice,

Re: [Tagging] Hamlet is always an unincorporated place in OSM?

inland for bigger farms and called it literally "The Hamlet," since a large acreage with a small number of houses at the crossroads. When The Hamlet later incorporated as a separate town (having grown, and having different agrarian concerns than a coastal town), it took the name "Hamilt

Re: [Tagging] Default values for residential roads and living streets

being like a one-lane two-way bridge ... Ooops. And that's before snow narrows things ... -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] the smallest cathedral in the world [was: Questions on building-tag]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > How about this one then? :-) > > > http://ccheadliner.com/news/world-s-smallest-cathedral- > about-to-close/article_156ea8a8-dbaf-11df-9bd0-001cc4c03286.html > > > A Bishop lived on site & conducted services

Re: [Tagging] the smallest cathedral in the world [was: Questions on building-tag]

Ooh, historic buildings ! On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 9:54 AM, althio wrote: >> Martin wrote: > > wikipedia says: "it is known under the moniker the smallest cathedral in > > the world" > > alt_name:hr=najmanja katedrala na svijetu > alt_name:en=smallest cathedral in the

Re: [Tagging] airstrip vs runway

> I see no reason why these cannot be retagged as 'runway'. NO NO NO 'airstrip' and 'runway' are terms of art in Aviation. The distinction is important. While to a mapper or geographer, an 'airstrip' seems like it could be a 'runway, surface=grass, permanent=no, livestock=maybe, lights=no,

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Question on memorials v monuments thanks. > > How about a memorial arboretum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arboretum), > a commemorative planted grove of trees that you can walk through & sit > under? > > Does

Re: [Tagging] Way beneath overhanging cliff

> > Nominally layer=0 is 'ground level'. In these situations the 'ground > level' > > folds back on itself - so both 'layers' are nominally 0. > ​I think Kevin has adequately refuted that: ​ > OK, yeah, I forgot 'layer' - and I think I'd use the rule, if you look up > to > the zenith and see

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

ques does not make searching for any war-memorial near me easy. I can include/exclude war statues from a statue search, but not search for any type of war memorial. -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagging mailing li

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

> The Vietnam War Memorial is the first one in US history, to my knowledge, to list all of the American casualties. ​ ​Depending on domain of "all" ... it's the only national "all", but not the first to list all for a smaller demographic unit than nation. Harvard U's Memorial Hall lists all

Re: [Tagging] fire hydrants

On Jun 10, 2017 1:47 PM, "Eric H. Christensen" wrote: Well, there is an NFPA color standard, IIRC, based on the flow rate of the largest diameter fitting on the hydrant. This is slightly different than the size of the main it is hooked to as a five-inch connection is

Re: [Tagging] Truck Parking

%3Ahgv#combinations> with ​ parking , parking_space , parking:condition , parking:condition:maxstay , parking:condition:default , parking:condition:time_interval, but not *amenity*=parking. - amenity=parking <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=parking#combinations> has hgv=no, desig

Re: [Tagging] Spillways

r create a new tag, > emergency=spillway > ​or use surface tags to distinguish the paved from unpaved​ as we do with roads ? -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https:/

Re: [Tagging] Mapping freeway stub ends?

... I have seen examples of stubs being constructed, end up as a ghost road for the next 3 or 4 decades, then suddenly are a thing that exists. I 5 opened in 1963 without ramps to I 84 east initially, but stubs existed. Yes we had a similar ghost exit on I-93 above Charles town/Somerville just

Re: [Tagging] A place where letters & parcels are sent to be sorted so they can be delivered?

re in USA, the two serving my area are General Mail Facility Boston and Fields Corner Postal Annex ​ ​(which is an annex to the local Fields Corner Post Office, which no longer has route delivery operating from it, but has full window service and Postal Boxes, which the Annex does not). ​ -- Bill

Re: [Tagging] 10 pin Bowling Alley

de with the kid, which necessitated traversing the entire bowling alley.) ​Now, are we tagging the difference between Duck ​pins and Candlepins ? :-) -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagging mailing l

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - snow removal station

On Jan 31, 2017 2:29 PM, "Philip Barnes" wrote: Not something we have in the UK, we don't get very much snow. The last time we had snow sufficient to settle on roads was 5 years ago. Maybe in North America Maybe we should propose creating these on the ground in North

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:51 PM, John Willis <jo...@mac.com> wrote: > Hedge is of great use in this situation It would be a great option, but that's not what the gardeners maintaining the traffic islands, rotary or otherwise, are planting here. -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

ki/Tag:landuse%3Dgrass [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] fixme -- by a specific date

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Bill Ricker <bill.n1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ​Seems to me that seasonal roads should have some sort of seasonal >> availability tag, similar to h

Re: [Tagging] fixme -- by a specific date

eeds syntax (and proposals for tools to suport). -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] fixme -- by a specific date

availability, so that a router (possibly using a Lambertus Garmin map) to get the right answer even if the download was not since the latest state change. (Yes, there are some parkways through parks that are usable through routes in daylight.) -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com htt

Re: [Tagging] railway=rail vs. railway=subway

ne used to be considered Elevated even though it had a subway section, but now it's subway even though it has cut-no-cover and reused heavy rail ROW sections. :-)​ -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] railway=rail vs. railway=subway

old days (during initial transition from trolley to pantograph), or if the GL tunnels now have 3rd rail. -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] railway=rail vs. railway=subway

ould handle freight cars. The surface > > trolley portions that run down boulevard median are direct line > extensions > > of the tunnel line but do have grade crossings at boulevard stoplights. > Then I think it should be railway=light_rail ​and the way magically transforms to railway=

Re: [Tagging] railway=rail vs. railway=subway

> . But if the tracks can > only be used by metro trains, they should be tagged railway=subway. > > Metro tunnels are usually more narrow than tunnels for full sized > passenger trains because building wide tunnels is more expensive. > railway=subway are usually encapsulated systems which may

Re: [Tagging] Busways

ss (among bigger changes) -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proper Tag for Not-a-Roundabout

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> wrote: > From a quick look on Streetview all junctions appear to be light controlled. Light controlled roundabouts are NOT roundabouts, right ? -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com

Re: [Tagging] Proper Tag for Not-a-Roundabout

can't remember where to check ... -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Busways

Thank you all, this thread caused me to notice my nearest mass-transit station hadn't been re-mapped since it was rebuilt ! Fix uploaded. On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Bill Ricker <bill.n1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Re Access=no inadvertently excluding pedestrians : signage here is &g

Re: [Tagging] Busways

ied to allow pedestrian access on a sidewalk to the lower-level of the rebuilt station, so I may need to change that ... after a walkabout to double-check details ! ) -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagg

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Bar vs Pub vs Restaurant in the US?

could push as well as they. I think i see which is Fast Food. Sad, since DD (and HoJo) both started a few miles south of me. The original DD is still in operation ... -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Bar vs Pub vs Restaurant in the US?

s divided by their > common language. Or even better, misquoting Churchill misquoting Shaw to us in the provinces ! > "The Queen's English? Of course I can speak the Queens English. I was born > in Queens." That's a lovely contrast of quotes ! :-) -- Bill Ricker bill.n1.

Re: [Tagging] Fixed caravan site

Many UK static caravan sites are not strictly residential, they have a planning clause prohibiting year-round occupation, so they are really recreational. I don't think hamlet is appropriate for a caravan site at all. In the US, we have such recreational sites, variously called campgrounds

Re: [Tagging] Fixed caravan site

Furthermore, in the US, the word 'caravan' is not used for house-trailers. Finding a tagging that works both countries may be suboptimal for both. Divided by a common language, etc. -- Bill @n1vux bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] round and round about:how to map this?

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:46 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Something that made their heads spin, from the looks of it. I hear the Magic Roundabouts take a little getting used to but it's very efficient when you get used to it. -- Bill @n1vux bill.n1...@gmail.com

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Railway start and end dates?

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: And you don't need start_date:railway, because you've already created a relation for most every railway, so put start_date on the relation. That's an excellent suggestion from a data point of view too. -- Bill @n1vux

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Bandstand

2012/3/11 Johan Jönsson joha...@goteborg.cc leisure=bandstand is a good tag. +1. -- Bill @n1vux bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] unfinished railway of historic importance

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't agree with planned-but-abandoned features being stored except in unusual circumstances. Key distinction is planned-but-never-built (county plat book fantasy roads), vs built, used, then abandoned

Re: [Tagging] unfinished railway of historic importance

I agree with Russ here. I have more experience with abandoned RR, as do most of us, since that 's what happened in the 20th C. ( Saddest task in my professional life was snipping newly abandoned ways out of my DOT GIS dataset in the 1980s.) But there are many more unfinished RR's than we recall.

Re: [Tagging] unfinished railway of historic importance

On this, I'd consult Russ Nelson, the OSM diva of failed 19thC railroads. On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: this is kind of an edge case, but a genuine one. how do you tag a never-completed railway which has significant important landmark value in

Re: [Tagging] Named gates

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com wrote: I've never seen a named gate where I would want the name to be rendered. I can immediately think of two gates that are such local or global landmarks their names should be rendered.

Re: [Tagging] ADR Tunnel Categories

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: this information is as essential for transport companies as max weight and max height if they ever transport hazardous materials. Also useful for Recreational Vehicle (aka land yachts) - some tunnels require small natural

Re: [Tagging] landuse:illegal and illegal:yes/no

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to propose a few additions: landuse=residential illegal=yes: It's a couple days early for Poison d'Avril / April Fools ? Is this serious? Under the usual rule-of-thumb, to map what's visible on the ground

Re: [Tagging] landuse:illegal and illegal:yes/no

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: farmers do occasionally shift the boundaries between different crops, so like anything else on a map, this is subject to bit rot. any till plant farmer who doesn't rotate his crops regularly needs to go back to Aggie

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?

Maine still has unincorporated cartesian townships with names like Township 7 Range 4. This is timber country with few permanent settlements. A few have recieved names, likely by incorporation (idk). iirc, in Maine the legal difference between town and city is as in Mass from which it separated,

Re: [Tagging] Living streets in the United States

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: In fact it can be called also a living zone. Mostly it is European thing, according to wiki. There are not as many in US but they exist. I am aware of a pair of ways in NYC's old Fort Hamilton, Brooklyn neighborhood that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Fire_Hydrant

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:12 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: How about a fire extinguisher[1]? I don't think this is a good idea, as they are 2 completely different things... t... but I'd tag them separately... +1 -- Bill n1...@arrl.net bill.n1...@gmail.com

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Fire_Hydrant

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:25 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: Why *should* newly entered hydrants use this new precise scheme.  Voting hasn't even started on the proposal, it might not get approved, the FRC start date is today, so it might get changed. I interpret that statement

Re: [Tagging] Oil Spill Tagging

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Alex Wardle awar...@gmx.com wrote: I don't think that an oil spill should be mapped It should be mapped, but not in the core OSM.org planet file / db. The spill like wildfires are in the huge class of stuff that belongs in the mashup overlays not in the Basemap.

Re: [Tagging] RFC on two proposals: Motorway indication; Expressway indication

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:32 AM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote:  You might be thinking, what's an expressway?  The short answer is, it's just like a freeway/motorway but with at-grade intersections. Huh? That's weird to me. The only Expressway so named nearby Boston (USA) is

Re: [Tagging] wine roads in openstreetmap

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:49 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: +1. This should be tagged as type of route-relation, probably in the tourist-rubrique and with a winery tour-subtag. +1 -- Bill n1...@arrl.net bill.n1...@gmail.com

[Tagging] odd Fences { was Re: Landuse border alignment}

Why would there be a fence within an unmaintained woodland? Fences are commonly used to demarcate ownership. unmaintained unowned +1 1) Fences indicate a FORMER or CURRENT ownership (thus plot) boundary, OR current or former landuse boundary within one ownership, eg planted field or pasture

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: AFAIK everything that is written down is copyright. that is a peculiarity of (relatively) recent 'reforms' in the US Code (which made registration and even proper marking optional), it is not universal. IANAL -- Bill

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:48 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Please don't confuse land use, what the land is used for, and land cover, what is the upper most covering on the ground... Good point. landuse=forest (or tree_farm if locally defined?) is true even for the week (or

Re: [Tagging] Mapping historic ruins

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 12:47 PM, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: Does Not_being_rendered_mapnik has got anything to do with this article saying its controversial ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Druins no the suggestion is that instead of historic=ruins one should say

Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings

I think the answers will vary from different countries. And may vary locally. Within N miles of the sea-shore, the MASS-GIS import includes building outlines from the NOAA airborne LIDAR coastal survey. Tagging is quite spare : * area: yes * building: yes * source: MassGIS

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Ed Hillsman ehills...@tampabay.rr.comwrote: Actually, a local fast-food chain out in Portland changed its policy about a year ago and now welcomes (and markets to) bicyclists to use its drive-through lanes. Portland is, well, different. Let's hope we can

Re: [Tagging] Flood prone areas

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:29 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: The majority of seasonal flooding (wet season) effects northern areas of Australia which has generally low population, the majority of flooding that effect most people is due to storms or cyclones and other irregular

Re: [Tagging] Flood prone areas

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone come up with a suitable method of tagging, especially roads, that are prone to flooding? they way Massachusetts was settled, the flood prone areas tend to be tagged Village ... flood waters just cresting

Re: [Tagging] Easy question: _link tags for U turn/cut throughs?

i generally also set access=private for the official vehicle only u-turns. would access=official here be an overly fussy distinction ? -- Bill n1...@arrl.net bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Love Hotel

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is useful in Brazil. I have heard of such in Tokyo as well. Niagara Falls NY USA has motels that specialize in 'honeymoon specials' which are rather similar but cater to longer stays and actually