Re: [Tagging] Adding water=fishpond to the wiki

2015-01-04 Thread althio forum
Hi Janko The tagging would be better IMO if we separate feature and use. Hence this proposal to be refined: Feature natural=water or place https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place=ocean https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Docean/sea

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and terminal without building tag

2015-01-04 Thread althio forum
I think too that place of worship could follow the established practice for detailed mapping of schools ie: amenity for grounds building for buildings Which then as I said needs a multpolygon? No? I always thought you were not supposed to have landuse overlap. If the date user or renderer is

Re: [Tagging] Date of survey

2014-12-23 Thread althio forum
You could tag date as year and month. Skip the day it is much less relevant. Which would not help in my case, as I work for several days on the same survey. m On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: On 12/22/2014 08:28 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: I always use the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Obligatory vs. optional cycletracks)

2014-12-22 Thread althio forum
In France the situation exists. Two signs are designed for this (but not well understood by people and even sometimes misused by authorities): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Road_signs_in_France Sign B22a (round, blue) = compulsory / mandatory / obligatory Bicycles MUST use, bicycles not

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

2014-12-19 Thread althio forum
On 19 December 2014 at 14:09, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote: 2014-12-19 14:05 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: -1, there is no reason to tag two identical playgrounds (outdoor, standard set of playground toys) differently just because one is near mall and other

[Tagging] New tag value in access? authorised [fork from: access in the wiki]

2014-12-05 Thread althio forum
/ DISCLAIMER / Starting new thread for side topics from: [Tagging] access in the wiki I would happily read more feedback from Martin and other contributors on authorised because it would certainly help with some limited traffic zone, bus lanes, residential streets... (2) proposing

Re: [Tagging] New tag value in access? authorised [fork from: access in the wiki]

2014-12-05 Thread althio forum
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-12-05 9:57 GMT+01:00 althio forum althio.fo...@gmail.com: Did you look at some of the examples in the links [7,8,9,10]? I feel private is not suitable there. How are tagged today the real-world

Re: [Tagging] Zones and defaults [fork from: access in the wiki]

2014-12-05 Thread althio forum
defaults are something for that data consumers need when actual data is missing. ;-) YMMV... My current point of view is different: + defaults are something to make tagging easier and more efficient. + They allow redundant data to be missing and thus make the database cleaner and smaller. + If

Re: [Tagging] access in the wiki

2014-12-04 Thread althio forum
/ DISCLAIMER / Trying to keep here only what is relevant to initial request. Starting new threads for side topics. previous proposals: - armed_forces - army. - military - military_vehicles - military_personnel cannot be military because that key is taken First: Shame that namespace is not

[Tagging] I don't like acronyms [fork from: access in the wiki]

2014-12-04 Thread althio forum
/ DISCLAIMER / Starting new thread for side topics from: [Tagging] access in the wiki (3) I don't like acronyms - psv public_service or public_transport - hov carpool - hgv heavy_goods while I would support this move, I think we should spell these out and not reduce the information so

[Tagging] Zones and defaults [fork from: access in the wiki]

2014-12-04 Thread althio forum
/rural] living_street Tempo-30-Zone low_emission_zone limited_traffic_zone and so on... / DISCUSSION / althio forum althio.fo...@gmail.com: (1) proposing tagging for zone like ZTL: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: there is actually a proposal for this kind of zone, to be mapped

Re: [Tagging] access in the wiki

2014-12-03 Thread althio forum
Long post to follow so this is a short version. too long; didn't read [TL;DR]: (1) proposing tagging for zone like ZTL: highway/zone:traffic=IT:limited_traffic_zone (2) proposing access=authorised (3) I don't like acronyms (4) attempt to modify access categories and labels Long post: Old

Re: [Tagging] How one should tag different sections of library?

2014-12-01 Thread althio forum
I like (3) the best (only 1 amenity, the biggest one) and I think the new tag could be similar to building:part A way with the tag building:part http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:part =yes or building:part http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:part =*:part describes a

Re: [Tagging] semantic issue with genus in the wiki, wetland, plant nursery, ...

2014-12-01 Thread althio forum
2014-12-01 14:25 GMT+01:00 Holger Jeromin mailgm...@katur.de: genus and species is defined as a name for an organism, not only plants. I added the species to animals in a zoo: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/286321033 So for producing landuse like plant_nursery a prefix named product:

Re: [Tagging] Various alt_name values?

2014-11-27 Thread althio forum
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:59 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote: alt_name is already a way to encode 1 additional value for the name key, so if you're describing a scheme to add any number of additional values, apply this scheme to name and not alt_name. +1 An ideal(?) scheme

Re: [Tagging] Various alt_name values?

2014-11-25 Thread althio forum
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote: I think it could be useful to have a clear documentation on the wiki about which solution is the preferred one. Oh yes! I would appreciate clear and explicit documentation on this one! On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:51 PM,

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-20 Thread althio forum
Hi John, I was curious about that too. François, Martin, the question is related to this statement by Martin: I prefer the street cabinet term to a more generic technical cabinet, as it gives approximative information both on size [snip]. Hence the question by John: How does the term street

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread althio forum
adding to Talk page On naming of newly voted man_made=street_cabinet http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet A few old new proposals for actual naming are: man_made=street_cabinet man_made=technical_cabinet man_made=outdoor_cabinet man_made=cabinet

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread althio forum
Martin, Jean-Marc, I appreciate the feedback. You are voicing some good elements. I am not totally convinced yet about generic vs specific. Fairly generic tag like 'man_made=cabinet' sounds very sensible as first level. Furthermore I do feel other proposal I have seen like 'street_' and

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread althio forum
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: I agree with your arguments - my personal choice would be technical_cabinet. I nevertheless chose to approve the proposal because I considered this issue minor compared to all the work that went in organizing the