Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/8/17 9:34 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 9/8/17 7:08 AM, ael wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Mike Thompson wrote: >>> User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset >>> 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in feet) >>> to the

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Colin Smale wrote: > Does anyone have any idea whether the elevations, be they in feet or metres, > are all respecting the wiki definition of being the height above MSL > according to EGM96 (not sure what that would mean in landlocked areas)

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
Also, I doubt anyone in ordinary life refers to a mountain as "Mount So-and-So 2000 meters", rather than simply "Mount So-and-So". On September 8, 2017 8:36:52 AM Richard Welty wrote: On 9/8/17 7:08 AM, ael wrote: On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Mike

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/8/17 7:08 AM, ael wrote: > On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Mike Thompson wrote: >> User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset >> 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in feet) >> to the name tag. For example, he changed "Crown Point"

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread ael
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Mike Thompson wrote: > User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset > 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in feet) > to the name tag. For example, he changed "Crown Point" to "Crown Point > 11,463 ft."[2]

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread marc marc
Le 08. 09. 17 à 11:14, Janko Mihelić a écrit : > 20155.9894568543 ft your unreasonable example has nothing to do with elevation. in any tag, nothing prevents a tool from being rational in the values it saves or displays. I do not know what is the best possible accuracy but an altitude measurement

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Janko Mihelić
Elevation doesn't go in "name" tag, that's quite obvious. But I think elevations in feet shouldn't be discouraged. Maybe sometimes you have iconic elevations of mountains in feet everybody knows and learns in school, and they want to see that number exactly on a map, and not some fraction after

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/09/2017 09:54, Colin Smale wrote: Does anyone have any idea whether the elevations, be they in feet or metres, are all respecting the wiki definition of being the height above MSL according to EGM96 (not sure what that would mean in landlocked areas) and NOT WGS84 or (strictly

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Lukas Sommer
The wiki page for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ele says it has to be in meters, not in feets. -- Lukas Sommer ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Colin Smale
Does anyone have any idea whether the elevations, be they in feet or metres, are all respecting the wiki definition of being the height above MSL according to EGM96 (not sure what that would mean in landlocked areas) and NOT WGS84 or (strictly speaking) relative to local MSL? The wiki page for

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Andrew Hain
Or, indeed, you could put a conversion in the editor between the mapper typing a figure in and the elevation being saved to the database. -- Andrew From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Sent: 08 September 2017 02:59:39 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread marc marc
Le 07. 09. 17 à 23:31, Mike Thompson a écrit : > he changed "Crown Point" to "Crown Point 11,463 ft. > it does say "Name is the name only"[3]. as the wiki says: the name is only the name. "Crown Point 11,463 ft" is not a name. Elevation goes in the "ele" tag. in meters if it's only a number. add

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-07 Thread Warin
On 08-Sep-17 09:10 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: Adding numeric values to the name of a peak is not okay. As for using feet in the "ele" tag instead of meters, JOSM discourages this practice and I think we should too. It's long past the time when Americans and other countries still using archaic

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-07 Thread Dave Swarthout
Adding numeric values to the name of a peak is not okay. As for using feet in the "ele" tag instead of meters, JOSM discourages this practice and I think we should too. It's long past the time when Americans and other countries still using archaic and cumbersome measurement systems based on the

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-07 Thread Jo
ele can of course be in feett or lightyears for that matter, but it's a lot easier to work with if they are all in the same unit. 2017-09-08 0:22 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > On 08-Sep-17 07:39 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > >> On 09/07/2017 04:31 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: >> >>> User

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-07 Thread Warin
On 08-Sep-17 07:39 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On 09/07/2017 04:31 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in feet) to the name tag. For example, he changed "Crown Point" to "Crown

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-07 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 09/07/2017 04:31 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset > 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in > feet) to the name tag. For example, he changed "Crown Point" to "Crown > Point 11,463 ft."[2] While the wiki

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-07 Thread Tod Fitch
Sounds like tagging for the renderer to me. There is a elevation tag already defined and in wide spread use. And it is pretty easy for a renderer to show that in addition to the name. And even convert it from meters to feet when doing the rendering. I do this when rendering my personal use

[Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-07 Thread Mike Thompson
User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in feet) to the name tag. For example, he changed "Crown Point" to "Crown Point 11,463 ft."[2] While the wiki doesn't specifically address the issue of elevation as