Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 05/15/2014 06:41 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-05-15 18:30 GMT+02:00 fly >: > > Wikipedia makes a difference between boccia and bocce, even if it is > just the italian name. > > > the Italian wikipedia states that "Boccia" is Bocce for disabl

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-15 18:30 GMT+02:00 fly : > Wikipedia makes a difference between boccia and bocce, even if it is > just the italian name. > the Italian wikipedia states that "Boccia" is Bocce for disabled people, the english WP says it is something very similar. I am no expert in this field but had alway

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread fly
Am 15.05.2014 18:24, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > 2014-05-15 18:14 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Liotier >: > > I might also do it for sport=boules;type=bocce which would become > sport=boules;boules=bocce. > > > > +1, there is also 1 type=boccia which might be norm

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 15/05/2014 18:22, fly wrote: Pretty much everyone has agreed that the type=* is being abused and that chaining sport=boules;boules=petanque is cleaner so I'm going to correct the 718 occurrences of sport=boules;type=petanque into sport=boules;boules=petanque. This would be an

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-15 18:14 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Liotier : > I might also do it for sport=boules;type=bocce which would become > sport=boules;boules=bocce. +1, there is also 1 type=boccia which might be normalized to bocce. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openst

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread fly
Am 15.05.2014 18:14, schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier: > On 15/05/2014 17:17, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> but I wouldn't add boules=bowls to this list because it seems quite >> different (e.g. the pitch is grass and not sand or gravel). Instead >> sport=bowls is perfectly valid and used twice as much as

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 15/05/2014 17:17, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: but I wouldn't add boules=bowls to this list because it seems quite different (e.g. the pitch is grass and not sand or gravel). Instead sport=bowls is perfectly valid and used twice as much as all kinds of boules together. Sound reasonable to me

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-15 14:43 GMT+02:00 nounours77 : > Indeed this is what you can also find reflected in the current usage: > 6 291 > *sport* > *bowls* > boules=bowls -> 0 > > > So should we then go with > > leis

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread fly
Am 15.05.2014 15:01, schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier: > On 15/05/2014 14:43, nounours77 wrote: >> bowls=bowls | petanque | bocce | whatever > > One could argue that locale=c would lead us toward using 'bowls' but on > the other hand even the English-language Wikipedia article for bocce > mentions that i

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 15/05/2014 14:43, nounours77 wrote: bowls=bowls | petanque | bocce | whatever One could argue that locale=c would lead us toward using 'bowls' but on the other hand even the English-language Wikipedia article for bocce mentions that it "is a ball sport belonging to the boules sport family"

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread nounours77
Am 15.05.2014 um 14:00 schrieb tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org: > Indeed this is what you can also find reflected in the current usage: > 6 291 > *sport* > *bowls* > boules=bowls -> 0 So should w

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 11:00 +0200, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > Well... Private messages tell me that boules might be popular outside of > France, so here is a translation for a more international debate... > > According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dboules a > petanque pitch (

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-15 13:43 GMT+02:00 nounours77 : > > Current usage is not very intense (80 times), and the top-level approach > > sport=bocce for the Italian variant is higher still: > > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=sport%3Dbocc* > > Not sure to understand you. (there are 30 sport=bocce vs 387

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread nounours77
> >> Much better to standardise on the "chaining" approach i.e. "boules=*" > > > > this was also discussed on talk-it (and I think talk-de) in the past: > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2013-October/038240.html > > the wiki advocates for boules=* on the tag page: > http://w

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Pieren
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Dan S wrote: > "type" is far too vague - it doesn't namespace at all, so it doesn't > make it definite if it's a type of boules, a type of pitch, etc. The > english wiki says, and I concur, Key:type "should be avoided": > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ty

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-15 11:07 GMT+02:00 Dan S : > Much better to standardise on the "chaining" approach i.e. "boules=*" this was also discussed on talk-it (and I think talk-de) in the past: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2013-October/038240.html the wiki advocates for boules=* on the tag

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Dan S
2014-05-15 10:00 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marc Liotier : > Well... Private messages tell me that boules might be popular outside of > France, so here is a translation for a more international debate... > > According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dboules a > petanque pitch (leisure=pitch) i

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Well... Private messages tell me that boules might be popular outside of France, so here is a translation for a more international debate... According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dboules a petanque pitch (leisure=pitch) is: sport=boules boules=petanque (375 nodes, 75 ways