Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-10-01 Thread John Willis
I am not a subscriber of that thread, would you mind mentioning this thread to them? Feedback on level:ref=* seems good, so ill create a RFC page for it and related tags meant to bridge the gap between addr and tourist/visitor ref information. Javbw > On Sep 29, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Marc Gemis

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-10-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 01.10.2015 um 00:48 schrieb johnw : >> if the postal address is different to the actual address (e.g. post goes to >> a reception which is in another building and does the internal distribution) >> I'd still tag the actual address where a feature is located > > if you a

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-30 Thread johnw
> On Sep 30, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > if the postal address is different to the actual address (e.g. post goes to a > reception which is in another building and does the internal distribution) > I'd still tag the actual address where a feature is located if you are

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 30.09.2015 um 06:24 schrieb John Willis : > > Directions, address, and spatial location are all 3 different things- and one > may not help the other. if the postal address is different to the actual address (e.g. post goes to a reception which is in another building a

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 29.09.2015 um 23:40 schrieb John Willis : > > This is why I suggested level:ref=* +1, this also seems reasonable cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/ta

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread John Willis
Directions, address, and spatial location are all 3 different things- and one may not help the other. Routing, lookup (and mailing), and the placement of pins / polygons cover these three different ideas. Routing to a pin may not correspond exactly to the mailing address, nor the explicit flo

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread Warin
On 30/09/2015 9:43 AM, John Willis wrote: Javbw On Sep 30, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: But in some countries, the floor information is actually part of the address. Thats great, please tag it as such. I'm not saying addr:floor shouldn't exist - it should. Im saying that e

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread John Willis
> On Sep 30, 2015, at 6:58 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > > Actually, Taginfo says that addr:floor is used 4314 times (3162 on nodes): > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr:floor I was reading the numbers off the wiki page - I guess there is an error in the counter implementation

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Sep 30, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > But in some countries, the floor information is actually part of the address. Thats great, please tag it as such. I'm not saying addr:floor shouldn't exist - it should. Im saying that encoding non-address information into

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:40 AM, John Willis wrote: > I think most business/dwellings don't have floor in their address, which > is why its usage (152 for points) is so low. > Actually, Taginfo says that addr:floor is used 4314 times (3162 on nodes): http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr:fl

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:40 AM, John Willis wrote: > Isn't addr:* for its postal / legal location definition? > > What if the floor level is not part of its address? I think most > business/dwellings don't have floor in their address, which is why its > usage (152 for points) is so low. Most bui

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:38 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > 2015-09-29 13:10 GMT+02:00 Eugene Alvin Villar : >> > addr:floor is about the address, "level" is used more often. >> >> When addr:floor=* was first proposed a few years ago, it had almost >> the exact same semantics a

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-09-29 13:10 GMT+02:00 Eugene Alvin Villar : > > addr:floor is about the address, "level" is used more often. > > When addr:floor=* was first proposed a few years ago, it had almost > the exact same semantics as level=*. > > Now, I'm using addr:floor=* to indicate the human-readable floor > in

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 29/09/2015 9:10 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > >> On 9/29/15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >>> b) indicating floor level in the mall is useful, and looking at the wiki shows that the tag addr:floor=* is suggested -

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread Warin
On 29/09/2015 9:10 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On 9/29/15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: b) indicating floor level in the mall is useful, and looking at the wiki shows that the tag addr:floor=* is suggested - but it only has 158 uses - which is amazingly small. is this the right key to indicate

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On 9/29/15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> b) indicating floor level in the mall is useful, and looking at the wiki >> shows that the tag addr:floor=* is suggested - but it only has 158 uses - >> which is amazingly small. is this the right key to indicate what floor a >> shop is on? > > addr:floor

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 29.09.2015 um 10:43 schrieb John Willis : > > I got lost at Kasuga station, because there were exits labeled 1,2,3,4,5,6 > and A1,A2,A3,A4,A5,A6. I wanted 6, but followed A6. i just want to know what > ref i should follow to get where i am going. > > Having a floor:re

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Sep 29, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > addr:floor is about the address, "level" is used more often. What about situations where the level and the signed level don't match? Im not trying to spatially locate the building for 3D rendering - i just want to know w

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 29.09.2015 um 03:50 schrieb johnw : > > a) is there a best practice to arrange all the point tags for the shops > placed on/in the Mall polygon? ideally you place them where they are when projected into 2D, you might even draw areas for them ;-) Maybe you could do it

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
> > a) is there a best practice to arrange all the point tags for the shops > placed on/in the Mall polygon? > > The guys from Mappa Mercia, are doing something similar right now. [1] You might want to take a look at the discussion on talk-gb [2] regards m [1] http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2015/0

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-28 Thread johnw
> On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > And the tags need to be able to use the local name directly - making the > mappers and checkers job easy - as the floor you are on is called the local > name ..not some OSM name that has to be looked up each time. perhap

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-28 Thread Warin
On 29/09/2015 11:50 AM, johnw wrote: I am mapping Tokyo Dome City, which is a maze of overlapping amenities (an amusement park on top of a shopping mall with a giant pedestrian area with fountains and ramps, bridges, staircases everywhere). The current issue I am investigating is how to map a

[Tagging] Adding floor location information

2015-09-28 Thread johnw
I am mapping Tokyo Dome City, which is a maze of overlapping amenities (an amusement park on top of a shopping mall with a giant pedestrian area with fountains and ramps, bridges, staircases everywhere). The current issue I am investigating is how to map a large amount of shops onto a single bu