Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-28 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 27.06.20 11:18, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > unlike other many image gathering sites, images there are > likely to be reusable and with at least basic info being > machine readable None of this changes if the Commons image is linked from the image tag, though. And in fact, I feel thes

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Please decide which edit you are proposing to run, you mentioned two contradictory algorithms. And then actually propose it. For the record, I oppose deprecating wikimedia_commons and removing it with a bot. We would start to specify both commons_category and commons_file? "Changesets will be

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 26, 2020, 20:09 by o...@tobias-knerr.de: > * Deprecate wikimedia_commons=* (because it unhelpfully mixes links to > categories, images, and other media types – I agree that's an issue) > * Move category links to commons_category=* > * Move image links to image=* > I strongly dislike idea of

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-27 Thread European Water Project
Move category links to commons_category=* +1 It might make sense to choose a more generic name like image_category or image_folder, so that any set of images, from any host, related to an osm object can be linked. On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 20:11, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 25.06.20 19:57, p

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-26 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 25.06.20 19:57, pangoSE wrote: > I recently started discussing the problems related to urls and > File:filename.* that links to wikimedia_commons using the tag. See > Talk:Key:image#Discourage_linking_to_commons_files_and_migrate_all_File:filename..2A_values_and_direct_urls_to_wikimedia_commons

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 20:24, Frederik Ramm wrote: > There are currently 28k objects with wikimedia_commons in the database. > Your edit would treble that. I'm not convinced that automatic edits that > massively boost a niche tag are a good idea. "niche"? > I am not comfortable with inventing n

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-26 Thread Cj Malone
On Thu, 2020-06-25 at 22:14 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Btw, there are also a few images tagged with a “flickr” key (~1200) > > While it could eventually make sense to make an exception for > wikimedia commons, I do not believe we should create a new key for > every image hosting service.

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 26, 2020, 08:51 by pang...@riseup.net: > Is there anything preventing us from running bots (with simple > algorithms) on the database? > Nothing? See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct See for example https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/M

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Jun 2020, at 08:53, pangoSE wrote: > > For me there are 2 categories: sites hosting free images like > Flickr, Mapillary and Commons and all the rest. Flickr is only at 1200 tag occurrences in total and we should stop this fragmentation IMHO. They are not free eit

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Jun 2020, at 08:53, pangoSE wrote: > > Is there anything preventing us from running bots (with simple > algorithms) on the database? Wikimedia projects do that all the time. I > rarely see this in OSM (besides the http/https bot) We should be really reluctant, I se

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-25 Thread pangoSE
thanks for the constructive suggestions :) Den Thu, 25 Jun 2020 22:14:21 +0200 skrev Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion: > sent from a phone > > > On 25. Jun 2020, at 19:59, pangoSE wrote: > > > > image=File:* -> commons_file=File:* image=Categor

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-25 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 15:19 Martin Koppenhoefer, wrote: > > there might be an issue with multiple images separated by ; because the > semicolon does not have to be escaped in URLs. If the protocol is given > every time it might still be ok? e.g. > http://111.com/example1.jpg;http://111.com/exampl

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Jun 2020, at 19:59, pangoSE wrote: > > image=File:* -> commons_file=File:* image=Category:* -> > commons_category=Category:* image=https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:* > -> commons_file=File:* image=https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:* -> > commons_c

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi pangoSE, On 6/25/20 19:57, pangoSE wrote: > I recently started discussing the problems related to urls and > File:filename.* that links to wikimedia_commons using the tag. See > Talk:Key:image#Discourage_linking_to_commons_files_and_migrate_all_File:filename..2A_values_and_direct_urls_to_wikime

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Jun 2020, at 19:59, pangoSE wrote: > > There are some image= tags that link to multiple images separated by ";". > These will be manually migrated to contain only one image that is not linking > to commons and the rest in a note, note1, noteX if multiple urls. t

[Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-25 Thread pangoSE
Originalmeddelande Från: pangoSE Skickat: 25 juni 2020 19:49:58 CEST Till: tagg...@lists.openstreetmap.org Ämne: Automated edit of image tags suggestion Below is a copy of the text at: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/pangoSE#Key:image Key:imageEdit The