Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

I would not be worried about excluding some things from a clarified definition of sport. I would have a new key for those excluded .. say 'recreation' that can be non competitive, non physical. Renders can then chose to show them the same way as 'sports' or not - their choice, at the moment

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

sent from a phone > On 25. May 2019, at 22:40, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I wanted to explicitly document > that it is ok and that it does not matter > that it is not fitting some definitions > of word "sport" it does fit the definition of sport being competitive, even if no competitions

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

25 May 2019, 21:38 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > > On 25. May 2019, at 20:57, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/169286212 >>

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

some activities can be sport or not, depending on the context, and it will eventually be on the mapper to decide. For example dancing can be practiced as a sport or for leisure, both in dedicated places and elsewhere. (similarly swimming may be close to bathing in some context). We will not be

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

sent from a phone > On 25. May 2019, at 20:57, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/169286212 > that are used solely for climbing not done as competitions there are lots of the features with sport tags not used for any competitions. The sports tag (property) is

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 19:59, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I thought about cases like > > (1) > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/169286212 > that are used solely for climbing not done as competitions > You're counting that as sport usage and I'm not disputing that. But climbing can also be

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

25 May 2019, 20:40 by pla16...@gmail.com: > On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 19:34, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > > >> Modified to " >> Limit to physical activity only would exclude for example >> {{tag|sport|chess}}. >> Limiting to

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 19:34, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Modified to " > Limit to physical activity only would exclude for example > {{tag|sport|chess}}. > Limiting to competitions only would exclude many cases of correctly used > {{tag|sport|climbing}} that nevertheless is not done as part of >

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

25 May 2019, 00:20 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 02:10, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> This would exclude for example {{tag|sport|chess}} or {{tag|sport|climbing}} >> not done as part of competitions. >> > >

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

25 May 2019, 00:36 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > I think it is way too soon to summarize a discussion that started less > than 1 week ago. > I am open to amending it. Can you propose some specific changes? (I am not fan of participating in discussions that end with noimpact whatsoever,

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sent from a phone > On 25. May 2019, at 11:01, Markus wrote: > > . I think it makes more sense to tag lakes or coastlines > accordingly if swimming is not allowed or if the water is polluted. swimming=no (or similar ) in case it is forbidden surely makes sense. It is also the mostly used

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 09:46, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > But it is a physical activity, with the result of good health and has > dedicated infrastructure ... and therefore is a a sport under the various > definitions of type C. Yes, but i think sport=* should only be added if a

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On 25/05/19 17:11, Markus wrote: On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 01:19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Accepting that requirement would mean that beaches cannot be tagged with the sport swimming as there is no construction for the sport. Cycleway are specifically constructed for bicycling .. so

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On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 01:19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Accepting that requirement would mean that beaches cannot be tagged with the > sport swimming as there is no construction for the sport. > Cycleway are specifically constructed for bicycling .. so can be tagged with > the

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On 25/05/19 09:05, Silent Spike wrote: It seem like generally sport in OSM is just any physical activity. However, it's key to note that features are only tagged with `sport` when specifically designated for that activity. For consideration, in the UK parkour is now officially recognised as a

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

It seem like generally sport in OSM is just any physical activity. However, it's key to note that features are only tagged with `sport` when specifically designated for that activity. For consideration, in the UK parkour is now officially recognised as a sport. If you're not aware, parkour can be

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On Fri, 24 May 2019 at 23:38, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What definition of 'sport' would you now have? > landuse=sport Applied to the whole globe. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

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I think it is way too soon to summarize a discussion that started less than 1 week ago. If definition C is accepted then: Bicycle riding is an accepted 'sport'. Riding my bicycle is then a 'sport', as I do it on roads and cycleways around me I can then tag these as sport=bicycle. And that

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 02:10, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 24 May 2019, 17:20 by dieterdre...@gmail.com > > what about shooting or chess? Chess clearly isn't a physical activity, > while for shooting there may be discussion. > > Shooting is quite definitely a sport, represented in the Olympic

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

24 May 2019, 18:44 by kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com: > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 12:10 PM Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > >> For example any definition that limits "sport" to competitions or only >> psychical activity is not >> fitting OSM use. >> > > I think you meant, 'physical' activity, although it

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On 5/24/2019 12:44 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: I think you meant, 'physical' activity, although it would be interesting to see an event like competitive soothsaying! If you ask 100 different psychics to identify a Zener card, some will almost certainly get it right! You'll probably have a champion

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On Fri, 24 May 2019 at 17:02, Markus wrote: > What about competitive binge drinking, it is a physical activity, may > be organized and aiming at expressing physical fitness. > It involves physical activity. I'm not sure that it enhances fitness. It may or may not be competitive. But if

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 12:10 PM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > For example any definition that limits "sport" to competitions or only > psychical activity is not > fitting OSM use. I think you meant, 'physical' activity, although it would be interesting to see an event like competitive

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On 5/24/19 11:20 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > Am Fr., 24. Mai 2019 um 15:55 Uhr schrieb Markus > mailto:selfishseaho...@gmail.com>>: > > I personally like the definition by the European Sports Charter > (article 2, paragraph 1a): > >    "Sport" means all forms of physical

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24 May 2019, 17:20 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > Am Fr., 24. Mai 2019 um 15:55 Uhr schrieb Markus <> selfishseaho...@gmail.com > > >: > >> I personally like the definition by the European Sports Charter >> (article 2, paragraph 1a): >> >>    "Sport"

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On Fri, 24 May 2019 at 17:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > what about shooting or chess? Chess clearly isn't a physical activity, while > for shooting there may be discussion. I play chess myself, but wouldn't call it sports. > The council of Europe also cites snooker along with chess as

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On 5/24/2019 11:20 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Seriously, we do not need to define what "sport" is, we will be voting with our feet. All accepted values are here: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/sport#values (plus what is missing) certainly frequent tags should be preferred over those

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Am Fr., 24. Mai 2019 um 15:55 Uhr schrieb Markus : > I personally like the definition by the European Sports Charter > (article 2, paragraph 1a): > >"Sport" means all forms of physical activity which, through casual > or organised participation, aim at expressing or improving physical >

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 9:55 AM Markus wrote: > I personally like the definition by the European Sports Charter > (article 2, paragraph 1a): > >"Sport" means all forms of physical activity which, through casual > or organised participation, aim at expressing or improving physical > fitness

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

I personally like the definition by the European Sports Charter (article 2, paragraph 1a): "Sport" means all forms of physical activity which, through casual or organised participation, aim at expressing or improving physical fitness and mental well-being, forming social relationships or

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 09:37, marc marc wrote: > > there is no rule defining how to swim as a hobby, > swim like a dog if you want, it's still swimming > It certainly is, but is it then a "sport", or just having fun / relaxing / cooling down? :-) Thanks Graeme

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On 23.05.2019 01:36, marc marc wrote: Le 23.05.19 à 01:26, Warin a écrit : A) A physical competition played according to rules. B) As for A) but includes practising for the sport c) as for B) but includes non competitive physical activity. Thoughts? i like C but without the "with rules"

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

23 May 2019, 01:26 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > So there are various definitions. Which one should OSM use? > I would rather ask which one OSM is using now. >From mentioned following seems to fit quite well: 1. an activity pursued for exercise or pleasure, usually requiring some degree of

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

Le 23.05.19 à 01:26, Warin a écrit : > A) A physical competition played according to rules. > > B) As for A) but includes practising for the sport > > c) as for B) but includes non competitive physical activity. > > Thoughts? i like C but without the "with rules" included via A :) there is no

[Tagging] Definition of Sport

From the talk here on juggling and private conversations with others there are various 'definitions' of the key 'sport' in use by OSM mappers. There are various definitions of the word sport in various dictionaries. The Macquarie (Australian): List some 20 various meanings/definitions .. e.g.