Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/2/23 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: wide truck. But if it is tagged est_width=3.5, you will not... And let say I have a bigger truck than yours and is 5 meters wide. How can I find a way if none of the highways have a width tag ? are we talking about boats or trucks? If you drive a big truck

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-26 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:19 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Don't want to stir up a whole new hornet's nest, but would that be kerb-to-kerb (i.e. tarmac width) or wall-to-wall (limiting the overall vehicle width)? Good question. The wiki simply says width of a way. So it's

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-23 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I come to a road with width=3 - that is indeed useful. I come to a road with narrow=yes - that is not as useful. I just don't understand how everyone can have the same argument, again and again, about every new tag or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-22 Thread Liz
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: If a user is bad at estimating widths I suggest that he measures the exact width. Still narrow is not a good solution to the problem as many posters have already written above. I reckon 3 paces would be more helpful than narrow Australia

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 22 February 2010 18:54, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I reckon 3 paces would be more helpful than narrow Paces of a short or tall person? :) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-22 Thread Liz
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: On 22 February 2010 18:54, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I reckon 3 paces would be more helpful than narrow Paces of a short or tall person? :) well they could add in the notes that they are 170cm tall and walking on crutches if they like

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-22 Thread Pieren
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: no, you can always compare it to the width of your vehicle, therefore it doesn't require that all streets are tagged width it. ?? With my Fiat 500 or you BMW X5 ? AND: you can always compare to the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-22 Thread Colin Smale
Pieren wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: no, you can always compare it to the width of your vehicle, therefore it doesn't require that all streets are tagged width it. ?? With my Fiat 500 or you

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 10:45, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: have a bigger truck than yours and is 5 meters wide. How can I find a way if none of the highways have a width tag ? So if a way is missing a maxspeed=* tag, that means we can travel at any speed we like, or should we use the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-19 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: If users are so incompetent at judging distances then maybe they should never hve picked up a GPS in the first place. Hey, guys, come back to the real world. As you said, putting the width_est is only helpful if you can

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-19 Thread Dave F.
Pieren wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com mailto:dave...@madasafish.com wrote: If users are so incompetent at judging distances then maybe they should never hve picked up a GPS in the first place. Hey, guys, come back to the real

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-18 Thread Kim Slotte
Hello, == Proposal == It is important to define narrow for highways residential, unclassified and living_street. Tag {{tag|width|narrow}} is not yet defined at [[Key:width]]. The alternatives are =3.5m, =3m, =2.5m and =2m. It is also important to know the width limit for when narrow rendering

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-18 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: Just estimate the width, width:est=* Narrow is too subjective where as width:est isn't much better but at least it puts a number to it Don't give again the same arguments as last time on this list. We just have to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 February 2010 01:54, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: Don't give again the same arguments as last time on this list. We just have How is the argument given less relevent than last time? to admit that many contributors find easier to say that a residential street is narrower than the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-18 Thread Liz
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: If I form an opinion stating 2m is narrow and someone forms an opinion stating 4m is narrow how is that helpful in the least? Narrow on foot or narrow in a truck imply different widths. So I'm in favour of estimating a width for this purpose, and not

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-18 Thread Dave F.
Pieren wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Just estimate the width, width:est=* Narrow is too subjective where as width:est isn't much better but at least it puts a number to it Don't give again

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: If users are so incompetent at judging distances then maybe they should never hve picked up a GPS in the first place. Or they should use est_width=1.5m + note=road looks narrow - please confirm width

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-18 Thread Dave F.
Roy Wallace wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: If users are so incompetent at judging distances then maybe they should never hve picked up a GPS in the first place. Or they should use est_width=1.5m + note=road looks narrow - please

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 February 2010 10:19, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Or they should use est_width=1.5m + note=road looks narrow - please confirm width Which is what was being suggested in the proposal on the wiki: Lets say we define narrow as approximately =3m. Then a way with width=2.5 will