Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-29 Thread Simone Saviolo
2010/9/28 ael : > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 03:41:49PM +0200, Simone Saviolo wrote: >> 2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo : >> > a satnav tells >> > me "third exit of the roundabout" >> >> It's unrelated, but Navit (the supposedly best available navigator >> that uses OSM maps) fails utterly at counting the ex

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread ael
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 03:41:49PM +0200, Simone Saviolo wrote: > 2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo : > > a satnav tells > > me "third exit of the roundabout" > > It's unrelated, but Navit (the supposedly best available navigator > that uses OSM maps) fails utterly at counting the exits of a > roundabout.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread Simone Saviolo
2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo : > a satnav tells > me "third exit of the roundabout" It's unrelated, but Navit (the supposedly best available navigator that uses OSM maps) fails utterly at counting the exits of a roundabout. It will include also oneway ways entering the roundabout, so my actual second

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread Simone Saviolo
2010/9/28 Colin Smale : > If you leave it at that, a navigation program might not recognise it as a > {roundabout|traffic_circle} so instead of saying "at the next roundabout > take the second exit" it would produce confusing instructions. Another non-problem. > As you > enter the "roundabout" you

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread Noel David Torres Taño
On Martes 28 Septiembre 2010 09:06:44 Elena ``of Valhalla'' escribió: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 02:50:35AM +0100, Dave F. wrote: > > [traffic circles] > > Do these genuinely still exist? I thought the French were the only ones > > to have these & got rid of them when their roundabouts became > > g

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread Colin Smale
> What I'm usually doing for such traffic circles is drawing a circle tagged > "highway=*" + "oneway=yes" + a "note=this is not a roundabout". If you leave it at that, a navigation program might not recognise it as a {roundabout|traffic_circle} so instead of saying "at the next roundabout take the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread Pieren
What I'm usually doing for such traffic circles is drawing a circle tagged "highway=*" + "oneway=yes" + a "note=this is not a roundabout". Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread Simone Saviolo
2010/9/28 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : > 2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo : >> 2010/9/28 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : >>> 2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo : intersections [1]. It is just a road that happens to be circular in shape, with semaphores or stops along it. >>> >>> who get's the right of way, when the traffic

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo : > 2010/9/28 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : >> 2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo : >>> intersections [1]. It is just a road that happens to be circular in >>> shape, with semaphores or stops along it. >> >> who get's the right of way, when the traffic lights turn off (say due >> to a techni

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread Simone Saviolo
2010/9/28 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : > 2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo : >> intersections [1]. It is just a road that happens to be circular in >> shape, with semaphores or stops along it. > > who get's the right of way, when the traffic lights turn off (say due > to a technical problem)? The traffic in the ci

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo : > intersections [1]. It is just a road that happens to be circular in > shape, with semaphores or stops along it. who get's the right of way, when the traffic lights turn off (say due to a technical problem)? The traffic in the circle or the one coming from the right? T

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread Colin Smale
The discussion here (and in talk-nl) seems to boil down to the question whether these traffic circles are a subtype of roundabout, or a junction type in their own right. I fully support all those who suggest they are a separate junction type. My proposal was based on the premise that "most people"

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 02:50:35AM +0100, Dave F. wrote: > [traffic circles] > Do these genuinely still exist? I thought the French were the only ones > to have these & got rid of them when their roundabouts became > gridlocked & the rest of Europe took the piss out of them. :-) here in Italy

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread Simone Saviolo
2010/9/28 Elizabeth Dodd : > On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:51:27 +1000 > John Smith wrote: > >> > So, "regular" roundabouts (i.e., those that are common, with >> > priority to the left) are tagged junction=roundabout, and >> > non-standard right-hand-priority ones are circular ways without the >> > round

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Dave F. wrote: > Do these genuinely still exist? I thought the French were the only ones to > have these & got rid of them when their roundabouts became gridlocked & the > rest of Europe took the piss out of them. :-) New Jersey (US) has some traffic circles wher

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-27 Thread Dave F.
On 27/09/2010 22:36, Colin Smale wrote: I am making a simple proposal of "roundabout=priority_to_right" to indicate a specific non-standard priority arrangement on some roundabouts occurring in some parts of mainland Europe. Please see: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Ro

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:51:27 +1000 John Smith wrote: > > So, "regular" roundabouts (i.e., those that are common, with > > priority to the left) are tagged junction=roundabout, and > > non-standard right-hand-priority ones are circular ways without the > > roundabout tag. > > Wouldn't you just

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-27 Thread John Smith
On 28 September 2010 08:44, Simone Saviolo wrote: > So, "regular" roundabouts (i.e., those that are common, with priority > to the left) are tagged junction=roundabout, and non-standard > right-hand-priority ones are circular ways without the roundabout tag. Wouldn't you just tag them both as jun

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2010/9/27 Colin Smale : >  I am making a simple proposal of "roundabout=priority_to_right" to indicate > a specific non-standard priority arrangement on some roundabouts occurring > in some parts of mainland Europe. > > Please see: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Roundabout_P

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-27 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 23:36:18 +0200, Colin Smale wrote: > I am making a simple proposal of "roundabout=priority_to_right" to > indicate a specific non-standard priority arrangement on some > roundabouts occurring in some parts of mainland Europe. Shouldn't this be better done with a proper rig

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-27 Thread Colin Smale
I am making a simple proposal of "roundabout=priority_to_right" to indicate a specific non-standard priority arrangement on some roundabouts occurring in some parts of mainland Europe. Please see: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Roundabout_Priority Comments and suggestion