On 26/03/2015 11:03 AM, Warin wrote:
Hi,
I have moved this proposal back into the Comments phase, where ideas
and comments can be dealt with, rather than the Voting phase where a
change makes the previous votes invalid.
Changes?
More verbose.
A very small sample from the OSM data base.
Hi,
I have moved this proposal back into the Comments phase, where ideas and
comments can be dealt with, rather than the Voting phase where a change
makes the previous votes invalid.
Changes?
More verbose.
A very small sample from the OSM data base.
Maximum and Minimum limits.
Seasonal/time
Added 'mild' with note.
Changed the order to reflect what I think will be the more frequent use.
Tried to add separation horizontal bar to the table for clarity.
On 12/02/2015 5:38 PM, johnw wrote:
tepid and mild are synonyms, so tepid should cover mild in that way. usually
tepid is for
On 12/02/2015 5:38 PM, johnw wrote:
tepid and mild are synonyms, so tepid should cover mild in that way. usually
tepid is for liquids, and mild is for air / weather, when it comes to
temperature, AFAIK.
Is ambient is for the ambient air/weather, ambient ground temp, or ambient
material
Why is a node needed? Here some samples..
Do you have any examples where a specific temperature is measurable?
Do you imagine these tags getting used for buildings like motel rooms, huts
and caves: and if so what's the suggested tagging scheme for the typical
cases?
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On 12/02/2015 9:43 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Why is a node needed? Here some samples..
Do you have any examples where a specific temperature is measurable?
Do you imagine these tags getting used for buildings like motel rooms,
huts and caves: and if so what's the suggested tagging scheme for
On 12/02/2015 7:30 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd add the tag to any node where I thought the temperature important,
significant and I knew the temperature .. even if only subjective .. such as
hot. If the temperature changes
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd add the tag to any node where I thought the temperature important,
significant and I knew the temperature .. even if only subjective .. such as
hot. If the temperature changes .. then I'd leave the temperature tag off
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
A hotel room that has air conditioning may be both heated or cooled
depending on the desired temperature and the ambient temperature (and the
air conditioner). It usually supplies a measure of fresh air too. I think
that this
On 12/02/2015 3:45 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com
mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
A hotel room that has air conditioning may be both heated or
cooled depending on the desired temperature and the ambient
temperature (and the
On 11 February 2015 at 17:45, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
A hotel room that has air conditioning may be both heated or cooled
depending on the desired temperature and the ambient temperature (and the
air
On February 11, 2015 3:59:45 PM CST, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/02/2015 3:45 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Most air conditioners here have the ability to both heat and cool at
least here and in the UK.
Technically, a unit that can either cool a building, or heat it by cooling
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
Why do you consider heated and cooled an 'interesting characteristic'
and how do you see it being rendered on to a map? Is it more
'important/significant' than the suggested temperature values? If so .. why
has it not been
On 12/02/2015 10:25 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
On February 11, 2015 3:59:45 PM CST, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/02/2015 3:45 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Most air conditioners here have the ability to both heat and cool at
least here and in the UK.
Technically, a unit that can either
Hi all,
I wonder: shouldn't we separate a conditioned room air in a hotel and
an object temperature? I get the feeling that this discussion on a
useful tag (how to denote the temperature of an object where it is
needed) is slowly drifting away to defining about everything related
to temperature.
On 12/02/2015 9:57 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com
mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
Why do you consider heated and cooled an 'interesting
characteristic' and how do you see it being rendered on to a map?
Is it more
Getting further and further away from tag:temperature=
On 12/02/2015 12:37 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
On February 11, 2015 6:16:39 PM CST, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/02/2015 10:25 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
On February 11, 2015 3:59:45 PM CST, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com
On February 11, 2015 6:16:39 PM CST, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/02/2015 10:25 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
On February 11, 2015 3:59:45 PM CST, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 12/02/2015 3:45 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Most air conditioners here have the ability to both
On Feb 6, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Kotya Karapetyan kotya.li...@gmail.com wrote:
1) +1 to drop Kelvins.
2) heated/cooled is a nice idea, but I wouldn't like seeing too many
top level tags.
Danger-cold
cold
cool
mild
warm
hot
danger-hot
I don’t think is unreasonable if we’re going to have
On 12/02/2015 1:23 PM, johnw wrote:
On Feb 6, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Kotya Karapetyan kotya.li...@gmail.com wrote:
1) +1 to drop Kelvins.
2) heated/cooled is a nice idea, but I wouldn't like seeing too many
top level tags.
Danger-cold
cold
cool
mild
warm
hot
danger-hot
I don’t think is
Danger-cold
cold
cool
mild
warm
hot
danger-hot
But first temperature=
But first temperature= ... the rest can come later as required.
gotcha - those 7 qualitative tags should be included, besides numerical values
expressed in C.
You are correct, the method, variability, and
tepid and mild are synonyms, so tepid should cover mild in that way. usually
tepid is for liquids, and mild is for air / weather, when it comes to
temperature, AFAIK.
Is ambient is for the ambient air/weather, ambient ground temp, or ambient
material temperature? the ambient temperature of
On 12/02/2015 6:08 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:51 PM, johnw jo...@mac.com
mailto:jo...@mac.com wrote:
Danger-cold
cold
cool
mild
warm
hot
danger-hot
What are some example nodes, where this proposed tag may apply,
and how you
On 12/02/2015 3:51 PM, johnw wrote:
Danger-cold
cold
cool
mild
warm
hot
danger-hot
But first temperature=
But first temperature= ... the rest can come later as required.
gotcha - those 7 qualitative tags should be included, besides numerical values
expressed in C.
You are correct, the
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:51 PM, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote:
Danger-cold
cold
cool
mild
warm
hot
danger-hot
What are some example nodes, where this proposed tag may apply,
and how you might suggest tagging.
Here are a few possible nodes I thought of:
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On 6/02/2015 11:22 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
There are cases where an approximate temperature is more useful than a
single scalar number.
For example a drinking fountain may be chilled, but not operating at
a single fixed temperature.
Similarly there's a big difference in a tropical climate
If we're going to have a temperature key - there should be some qualitative
values in human understandable ranges. Yes, they are subjective.
Cool/ cold / frozen / danger-cold
Warm / hot / boiling / danger-hot
Mild (human range comfortable, both hot and cold)
This allows tagging for objects /
1) +1 to drop Kelvins.
2) heated/cooled is a nice idea, but I wouldn't like seeing too many
top level tags.
temperature=heated
temperature=cooled
would be my preferred way to go.
I don't like :hvac too much either, because then what do I do if I
have AC + fireplace + central heating and use all
Just a nitpicking detail, using 'degree' with the Kelvin scale was
deprecated in 1968 by the 13th General Conference on Weights and Measures.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin#Usage_conventions
Lukas Sommer wrote on 2015-02-05 08:50:
I suppose that in most countries of the world, °C is
begin rant
I also think Americans, and I am one, need to get over the use of degrees F
and the old inch/foot/mile system. It's stupid and anachronistic to base the
units of length on the length of the king's thumb, or whatever. Continuing
to make exceptions for them is only perpetuating
There are cases where an approximate temperature is more useful than a
single scalar number.
For example a drinking fountain may be chilled, but not operating at a
single fixed temperature.
Similarly there's a big difference in a tropical climate between a building
with A/C and one without.
And a
On 5/02/2015 1:02 AM, fly wrote:
Am 04.02.2015 um 10:56 schrieb Kotya Karapetyan:
Hi,
+1 for the proposal as such.
I have suggestions for some parts of the proposal though.
1) I would discourage specification of the temperature without the
scale indication. I have never lived in the US but I
On 5/02/2015 1:02 AM, fly wrote:
Am 04.02.2015 um 10:56 schrieb Kotya Karapetyan:
1) I would discourage specification of the temperature without the
scale indication. I have never lived in the US but I see from the Web
that Americans like specifying temperature in degrees Fahrenheit
without
If we look how other units are treated in OSM
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features/Units) than the keys
have always default units. Which one is the default unit differs from
key to key. For example, the default unit for width=* is “meter”,
while the default unit for distance=* is “km”.
Am 04.02.2015 um 10:56 schrieb Kotya Karapetyan:
Hi,
+1 for the proposal as such.
I have suggestions for some parts of the proposal though.
1) I would discourage specification of the temperature without the
scale indication. I have never lived in the US but I see from the Web
that
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