We have finally 12 votes: 11 times “yes” and 1 time “no”. I think this
could be considered as approved …
Lukas
Lukas Sommer
2014-11-02 7:57 GMT+00:00 Lukas Sommer :
> Hello.
>
> After commenting period, now is starting the voting for the junction
> (only) tagging at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap
> Am 11.11.2014 um 18:45 schrieb Lukas Sommer :
>
> but it is simply a closed way which is used together with “highway=*” and
> represents a road in form of a circle. So this would probably conflict with
> interpreting this as area.
on the junction area you wouldn't put a highway tag.
Ch
The most popular value for the key “junction” is “roundabout”, which can be
used on closed ways, but it hasn’t the meaning of an area, but it is simply
a closed way which is used together with “highway=*” and represents a road
in form of a circle. So this would probably conflict with interpreting t
2014-11-11 14:45 GMT+01:00 Lukas Sommer :
> The proposal is only about allow “junction=yes” on areas. All other stuff
> stays without changes.
Would you mind explaining why you oppose more specific junction types in
this proposal which apparently aims at mapping junctions in more detail?
Before
The proposal is only about allow “junction=yes” on areas. All other stuff
stays without changes.
Lukas Sommer
2014-11-11 12:08 GMT+00:00 Richard Z. :
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:08:56AM +, Lukas Sommer wrote:
> > Just as a reminder: Voting is still open at
> >
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.o
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:08:56AM +, Lukas Sommer wrote:
> Just as a reminder: Voting is still open at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions
question - key:junction has many more possible values than just
"yes" for the single point variant. Are
Just as a reminder: Voting is still open at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions
Lukas
Lukas Sommer
2014-11-02 7:57 GMT+00:00 Lukas Sommer :
> Hello.
>
> After commenting period, now is starting the voting for the junction
> (only) tagging at
> htt
Hello.
After commenting period, now is starting the voting for the junction (only)
tagging at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions
Lukas Sommer
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Okay, we have 9 votes:
- 5 times approve
- 3 times oppose
- 1 time obstain
I suppose this is not enough?
Lukas Sommer
2014-09-28 14:48 GMT+00:00 Lukas Sommer :
> Hello.
>
> After discussion and some modifications of the proposal, here a request
> for voting on “Tagging for complex junctions or
Hello all.
At
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions_or_traffic_signals_that_are_named
there is still a proposal for complex junctions and traffic signal systems
in voting process. Participation is appreciated ;-)
Regards
Lukas
Lukas Sommer
2014-09-
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:56 PM, fly wrote:
> Once more cite a mail on the previous thread [1]
>
> Seems to be a real world example, which is mappable with nodes for the
> traffic_signals and an area for the junction.
You even don't need an area if the junction is a node and the traffic
signals a
What would also be no problem, because you can give an individual name=*
tag to each node with highway=traffic_signals and another name=* tag to the
area.
Lukas Sommer
2014-09-30 18:56 GMT+00:00 fly :
> Am 30.09.2014 14:34, schrieb Lukas Sommer:
> >> If there is a need to tag traffic signal name
Am 30.09.2014 14:34, schrieb Lukas Sommer:
>> If there is a need to tag traffic signal names and junction names on
> the same node, then the logical solution is junction:name=* and
> traffic_signals:name=*. Or in different languages: junction:name:th=*
> and traffic_signals:name:kr=*.
>
> Differen
Oh, sorry, Pieren was faster… ;-)
Lukas Sommer
2014-09-30 12:34 GMT+00:00 Lukas Sommer :
> > If there is a need to tag traffic signal names and junction names on the
> same node, then the logical solution is junction:name=* and
> traffic_signals:name=*. Or in different languages: junction:name:t
> If there is a need to tag traffic signal names and junction names on the
same node, then the logical solution is junction:name=* and
traffic_signals:name=*. Or in different languages: junction:name:th=* and
traffic_signals:name:kr=*.
Different names for junction and traffic signal are probably n
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> If there is a need to tag traffic signal names and junction names on the
> same node,
As far as I understood, this is just a theoritical case. Also, in real
world, it doesn't make real sens to name the intersection AND a
traffic signal (wit
2014-09-29 23:45 GMT+02:00 Lukas Sommer :
> The case of Japan is different. In Japan, the name belongs to the _traffic
> signal_, and _not_ to the junction. We need to distinguish this, because
> they are usually differently rendered (traffic signal names usually with an
> icon and junction names
Dave, no, my intention was to describe them similar to maxspeed=DE:,
maxspeed=IT: values, not tags. But as Lukas Sommer said
> In Japan, the name belongs to the _traffic signal_, and _not_ to the
junction.
But since only Japan is different there no need to use prefixed values with
different meaning
So, if you have an intersection of two streets, with one traffic signal facing
each direction, each of the four traffic signals will have its own distinct
name?
On September 29, 2014 4:45:33 PM CDT, Lukas Sommer wrote:
>The case of Japan is different. In Japan, the name belongs to the
>_traffi
@Lukas
"But what would we gain when we distinguish between th:junction_area and
kr:junction_area - because here we have two values for the same feature."
I assume what is desired is to have the ability to provide those two values
in different languages. Usually the language suffix is found on the
The case of Japan is different. In Japan, the name belongs to the _traffic
signal_, and _not_ to the junction. We need to distinguish this, because
they are usually differently rendered (traffic signal names usually with an
icon and junction names usually without an icon).
But what would we gain w
> Thailand has official signs naming the junctions/intersections. These
names are also used when you give directions.
As Imagic suggested, it not best way to use different tags for close
meanings, single tag will be better option:
junction=th:junction_area
junction=jp:junction_area
junction=kr:junc
> Can you please provide examples how to draw area for more complicated
junctions?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions_or_traffic_signals_that_are_named
Lukas Sommer
2014-09-29 3:14 GMT+00:00 Никита :
> Not enough examples, I cannot vote yes right
On 29.09.2014 12:21, Никита wrote:
> Having named junctions is quite common.
Do you mean personal name? There very-very few named junctions in Russia
and almost all of them are local names, not official. Ex:
Thailand has official signs naming the junctions/intersections. These
names are also
> Do you mean personal name proper noun?
2014-09-29 14:21 GMT+04:00 Никита :
> > a lot of people in Thailand will be mad at you then...
> Well, yes, Thailand also, but this tag will be truly meaningful for
> limited number of countries. I think we should reflect that.
>
> > Having named junctions
> a lot of people in Thailand will be mad at you then...
Well, yes, Thailand also, but this tag will be truly meaningful for limited
number of countries. I think we should reflect that.
> Having named junctions is quite common.
Do you mean personal name? There very-very few named junctions in Russ
On 29.09.2014 05:14, Никита wrote:
Should we discourage usage of this tag(s) outside Korea and Japan? (I
will vote yes for this part)
a lot of people in Thailand will be mad at you then...
Having named junctions is quite common.
Stephan
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I can see this being somewhat practical in North America, but the tagging
for North American examples tends to fall within existing standards. Take
Coe Circle in Portland or Bartlett Square in Tulsa for example. And ignore
the fact that Bartlett Square is round
On Sep 28, 2014 10:15 PM, "Ники
Not enough examples, I cannot vote yes right now. Can you please provide
examples how to draw area for more complicated junctions? For 3, 4 or 5
roads? Example with roundabout (should we include inside area)? For
junction with 2 or many roundabouts (how we should include all these small
areas betwe
Oh, sorry, I missed this:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions_or_traffic_signals_that_are_named
Lukas Sommer
2014-09-28 20:47 GMT+00:00 Mateusz Konieczny :
> A link is missing.
>
> 2014-09-28 16:48 GMT+02:00 Lukas Sommer :
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> After
A link is missing.
2014-09-28 16:48 GMT+02:00 Lukas Sommer :
> Hello.
>
> After discussion and some modifications of the proposal, here a request
> for voting on “Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are
> named“.
>
> This is an important feature in some regions in Asia (notably
Hello.
After discussion and some modifications of the proposal, here a request for
voting on “Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named“.
This is an important feature in some regions in Asia (notably Japan and
Korea), but may be useful also in other regions of the world.
Lu
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