Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re[2]: PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length
On 11/8/20 1:11 pm, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote: the train or trains do not stop where he says they do, Do they stop at the platform? Yes. So stop positions maybe mapped. and i am talking about 400 +, unverified platforms. which is 200 + stations, Unverified? Verified by the existing signs? This maybe 'out of date' but still verifiable. How 'inaccurate' are the present stop positions? How precise is the mapped position required? Were there stop positions there before? Is it not better to have some indication rather than nothing? "They will stay there for ever" unless someone improves them. Monday, August 10, 2020 9:33 PM -05:00 from Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: On 11/8/20 9:25 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote: one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered yet is what about someone not local who just puts 400 + unverified stops on platforms and there all wrong. If you find something wrong - correct it. If the things mapped are deceitful, malicious etc then report it to the DWG to prevent more of the same. If the things mapped are better than what was there before then I would call them improvements and thus beneficial, no point in being upset by it. Being local is not a requirement to map, get over it. Local knowledge is beneficial as it aids mapping things that have local characteristics - like where trains stop. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re[2]: PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length
the train or trains do not stop where he says they do, and i am talking about 400 +, unverified platforms. which is 200 + stations, see; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metra https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-August/054669.html https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-August/054696.html https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-August/054697.html >Monday, August 10, 2020 9:33 PM -05:00 from Warin < 61sundow...@gmail.com >: > >On 11/8/20 9:25 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote: >>one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered yet is what >>about someone not local >> >>who just puts 400 + unverified stops on platforms and there all wrong. >> >If you find something wrong - correct it. > >If the things mapped are deceitful, malicious etc then report it to the DWG to >prevent more of the same. >If the things mapped are better than what was there before then I would call >them improvements and thus beneficial, no point in being upset by it. >Being local is not a requirement to map, get over it. Local knowledge is >beneficial as it aids mapping things that have local characteristics - like >where trains stop. >___ >Tagging mailing list >Tagging@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re[2]: PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length
On 11/8/20 9:25 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote: one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered yet is what about someone not local who just puts 400 + unverified stops on platforms and there all wrong. If you find something wrong - correct it. If the things mapped are deceitful, malicious etc then report it to the DWG to prevent more of the same. If the things mapped are better than what was there before then I would call them improvements and thus beneficial, no point in being upset by it. Being local is not a requirement to map, get over it. Local knowledge is beneficial as it aids mapping things that have local characteristics - like where trains stop. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re[2]: PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered yet is > what about someone not local > > who just puts 400 + unverified stops on platforms and there all wrong. > Again, is there a reason you're not referring to me by name? It's getting a little on my nerves. I'll answer your question, though. If you want to verify and reposition them, go ahead. If you want to add more stop_position nodes to reflect train lengths, please feel free. Otherwise, if they still bother you, perhaps you can leave them alone and let others improve them. -Clay ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Fwd: Re[2]: PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length
one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered yet is what about someone not local who just puts 400 + unverified stops on platforms and there all wrong. >Monday, August 10, 2020 4:30 AM -05:00 from Warin < 61sundow...@gmail.com >: > >On 10/8/20 7:06 pm, Ture Pålsson via Tagging wrote: >> Here in Stockholm, trains seem to line up one end of the train with >> one end of the platform. Usually, that's the end where the entrance >> is, but sometimes there are entrances at both ends, so if you arrive >> just in time at an unfamiliar station and find that it's a short >> train, you may be in for a run... > > >A good reason to map that end in OSM. > >So 'local variations' maybe needed. > >> (BTDT, with a day hike rucksack...) > > >A day hike is not much of a load. > >An overnight hike is a little more, 7 days more still. 10 days is my >limit... too heavy after that. > >> >> 2020-08-10 09:20 skrev Warin: >>> [...] >>> Why is the front of the vehicle (bus, train, ferry.. and possibly >>> others) mapped? >>> >>> Would it not be better to map the thing most usefull to most people? >>> That would be where passengers get on/off, on multiple exit vehicles >>> like train then the average of these positions could be used. >>> >>> Trains here of varying lengths tend to place the middle of the train >>> at the middle of the platform - thus it is consistent for any train >>> length. The only exceptions are where the platform is shorter than the >>> train so the train stops such that the designated car/carriage is >>> centered on the platform - thus it is still a consistent location for >>> OSM. >> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > >___ >Tagging mailing list >Tagging@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
