Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

[Gerd Petermann]

Hi Dave,


I agree that it is not trivial because the rules which set the highway name are 
already quite complex.


I think you have to add a rule like this:

highway=* & maxspeed=* {set xxx_maxspeed_label = '($(maxspeed))'}
somewhere at the beginning of the lines rules, I leave it up to you to add rules

to convert the value to mph or add a unit, see also inc/roadspeed


Next you have to change all the rules which use the name

macro for highways.

Example for trunk roads:

change the rule

highway=trunk {name '${ref|highway-symbol:hbox} ${name}' | 
'${ref|highway-symbol:hbox}' | '${name}'; addlabel '${name} (${ref})' }

to

highway=trunk {name '${name} ${ref|highway-symbol:hbox} $(xxx_maxspeed_label)' 
| name '${name} ${ref|highway-symbol:hbox} ' | '${ref|highway-symbol:hbox}' 
$(xxx_maxspeed_label)' |'${ref|highway-symbol:hbox}' | '${name} 
$(xxx_maxspeed_label)' | '${name}'; addlabel '${name} (${ref})' }


If that doesn't help, I suggest to pose the question in the mkgmap experts list:

mkgmap-...@lists.mkgmap.org.uk


Gerd

Von: Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Freitag, 22. Juli 2016 07:07:08
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

I understand that. I'm  not asking for reverse engineering, only for a way to 
write a style rule that appends the maxspeed tag value to the output string 
that ends up being the name Garmin shows on the unit.

Let me put it another way. It seems to me that if one can use a style in such a 
way to display a road name from the name tag, plus a route number from the ref 
tag, then it ought to be possible for me to create a style that will show the 
value of the maxspeed tag. I mean, certain of the style directives (like the 
ones in my snippet) only create labels that are referenced later when styles 
are actually being applied to objects during map creation. Instead of seeing 
"driving on Ak 9 (Main Street)"  on my Garmin screen I want to see "driving on 
Main St (Ak 9)(30 mph)".  It should be possible to make a style rule to create 
that result. I'm just not clever enough to figure out how.


On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Warin 
<61sundow...@gmail.com<mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dave,
Garmins mapping has evolved over time. It is not open source nor do they 
release the commands etc that they use.
So things are reverse engineered to get Garmin maps from various sources 
(including OSM).
While maxspeed may be important for some .. it may not be high on the list of 
things to do for those doing the reverse engineering.
So in terms of getting it on your Garmin .. not now. But maybe in the future.


On 7/22/2016 6:31 AM, Gerd Petermann wrote:

Hi Dave,


"there's no known way to simply append that tag to a label or highway name. 
Correct?"

no, I think that should be possible when the way has the maxspeed tag.

I refered to a different feature which shows a road sign with the maxspeed value

and also allows to warn the driver when he is faster.


Gerd


Von: Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com><mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 22:18:54
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

Thanks for the responses.

I assumed because we can append ref tags to a highway name one could just do 
the same for maxspeed.  It's just another tag after all. Obviously, there is a 
lot of interplay between mkgmap and the Garmin internals that I don't 
understand.

Gerd, what you're saying is that there's no known way to simply append that tag 
to a label or highway name. Correct?

Dave

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Gerd Petermann 
<gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com<mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Well,


the default style rules in mkgmap evaluate maxspeed to calculate a so called 
road speed value which is used

by the Garmin routing algo.

But we don't know any way to store the value in the map so that it woud show up 
in the device when you

pass the node. I know that modern Garmin maps have this feature using so called 
NT maps, I don't know

any place in the older img format where this information could be stored, but 
maybe we just didn't find

it yet.


Gerd


Von: Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org<mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 08:55:27
An: David Swarthout; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Dave Swarthout 
<daveswarth...@gmail.com<mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I posted this on the Garmin OSM forum but nobody responded. Maybe someone here 
can help with this.

I recently added maxspeed to many highways in my 

Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

[Warin]

Ah.
Not so much a tagging issue .. a 'style' issue.
Is there a gittyhub talk group?

You could take the data and loacly convert the ref value to include th 
emax speed value ..

 for your example
ref=Ak9
maxspeed=30 (mph .. stored in kmh so you will need a conversion for mph

to
ref=Ak9)(30 mph
mexspeed=30

...
That may then render the way you want it. Bit of a work around, would be 
easier with direct coding.


On 7/22/2016 3:07 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
I understand that. I'm  not asking for reverse engineering, only for a 
way to write a style rule that appends the maxspeed tag value to the 
output string that ends up being the name Garmin shows on the unit.


Let me put it another way. It seems to me that if one can use a style 
in such a way to display a road name from the name tag, plus a route 
number from the ref tag, then it ought to be possible for me to create 
a style that will show the value of the maxspeed tag. I mean, certain 
of the style directives (like the ones in my snippet) only create 
labels that are referenced later when styles are actually being 
applied to objects during map creation. Instead of seeing "driving on 
Ak 9 (Main Street)"  on my Garmin screen I want to see "driving on 
Main St (Ak 9)(30 mph)".  It should be possible to make a style rule 
to create that result. I'm just not clever enough to figure out how.



On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com 
<mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Dave,
Garmins mapping has evolved over time. It is not open source nor
do they release the commands etc that they use.
So things are reverse engineered to get Garmin maps from various
sources (including OSM).
While maxspeed may be important for some .. it may not be high on
the list of things to do for those doing the reverse engineering.
So in terms of getting it on your Garmin .. not now. But maybe in
the future.


On 7/22/2016 6:31 AM, Gerd Petermann wrote:


Hi Dave,


"there's no known way to simply append that tag to a label or
highway name. Correct?"

no, I think that should be possible when the way has the maxspeed
tag.

I refered to a different feature which shows a road sign with the
maxspeed value

and also allows to warn the driver when he is faster.


Gerd


*Von:* Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com>
<mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 22:18:54
*An:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
    *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?
Thanks for the responses.

I assumed because we can append ref tags to a highway name one
could just do the same for maxspeed.  It's just another tag after
all. Obviously, there is a lot of interplay between mkgmap and
the Garmin internals that I don't understand.

Gerd, what you're saying is that there's no known way to simply
append that tag to a label or highway name. Correct?

Dave

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Gerd Petermann
<gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com
<mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Well,


the default style rules in mkgmap evaluate maxspeed to
calculate a so called road speed value which is used

by the Garmin routing algo.

But we don't know any way to store the value in the map so
that it woud show up in the device when you

pass the node. I know that modern Garmin maps have this
feature using so called NT maps, I don't know

any place in the older img format where this information
could be stored, but maybe we just didn't find

it yet.


Gerd


*Von:* Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org
<mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>>
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 08:55:27
*An:* David Swarthout; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
    *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my
Garmin?
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Dave Swarthout
<daveswarth...@gmail.com <mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

I posted this on the Garmin OSM forum but nobody
responded. Maybe someone here can help with this.

I recently added maxspeed to many highways in my
neighborhood and am looking for a way to have them
display on my Garmin Montana. Mostly I would use this
information while driving here and there to show me roads
that don't have a maxspeed tag already. I'm looking for a
style directive that will append maxspeed information to
the highway-symbol and ref for the 

Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

[Dave Swarthout]

I understand that. I'm  not asking for reverse engineering, only for a way
to write a style rule that appends the maxspeed tag value to the output
string that ends up being the name Garmin shows on the unit.

Let me put it another way. It seems to me that if one can use a style in
such a way to display a road name from the name tag, plus a route number
from the ref tag, then it ought to be possible for me to create a style
that will show the value of the maxspeed tag. I mean, certain of the style
directives (like the ones in my snippet) only create labels that are
referenced later when styles are actually being applied to objects during
map creation. Instead of seeing "driving on Ak 9 (Main Street)"  on my
Garmin screen I want to see "driving on Main St (Ak 9)(30 mph)".  It should
be possible to make a style rule to create that result. I'm just not clever
enough to figure out how.


On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave,
> Garmins mapping has evolved over time. It is not open source nor do they
> release the commands etc that they use.
> So things are reverse engineered to get Garmin maps from various sources
> (including OSM).
> While maxspeed may be important for some .. it may not be high on the list
> of things to do for those doing the reverse engineering.
> So in terms of getting it on your Garmin .. not now. But maybe in the
> future.
>
>
> On 7/22/2016 6:31 AM, Gerd Petermann wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>
> "there's no known way to simply append that tag to a label or highway
> name. Correct?"
>
> no, I think that should be possible when the way has the maxspeed tag.
>
> I refered to a different feature which shows a road sign with the maxspeed
> value
>
> and also allows to warn the driver when he is faster.
>
>
> Gerd
> --
> *Von:* Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com> <daveswarth...@gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 22:18:54
> *An:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?
>
> Thanks for the responses.
>
> I assumed because we can append ref tags to a highway name one could just
> do the same for maxspeed.  It's just another tag after all. Obviously,
> there is a lot of interplay between mkgmap and the Garmin internals that I
> don't understand.
>
> Gerd, what you're saying is that there's no known way to simply append
> that tag to a label or highway name. Correct?
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Gerd Petermann <
> gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well,
>>
>>
>> the default style rules in mkgmap evaluate maxspeed to calculate a so
>> called road speed value which is used
>>
>> by the Garmin routing algo.
>>
>> But we don't know any way to store the value in the map so that it woud
>> show up in the device when you
>>
>> pass the node. I know that modern Garmin maps have this feature using so
>> called NT maps, I don't know
>>
>> any place in the older img format where this information could be stored,
>> but maybe we just didn't find
>>
>> it yet.
>>
>>
>> Gerd
>> --
>> *Von:* Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org>
>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 08:55:27
>> *An:* David Swarthout; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
>> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I posted this on the Garmin OSM forum but nobody responded. Maybe
>>> someone here can help with this.
>>>
>>> I recently added maxspeed to many highways in my neighborhood and am
>>> looking for a way to have them display on my Garmin Montana. Mostly I would
>>> use this information while driving here and there to show me roads that
>>> don't have a maxspeed tag already. I'm looking for a style directive that
>>> will append maxspeed information to the highway-symbol and ref for the
>>> standard highway types.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not currently aware of anything in the OSM to Garmin toolchain that
>> is capable of encoding maxspeed as of yet.  As far as I'm aware, the only
>> data consumer that is using lane or speed data is Osmand at this time.
>>
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Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

[Warin]

Dave,
Garmins mapping has evolved over time. It is not open source nor do they 
release the commands etc that they use.
So things are reverse engineered to get Garmin maps from various sources 
(including OSM).
While maxspeed may be important for some .. it may not be high on the 
list of things to do for those doing the reverse engineering.
So in terms of getting it on your Garmin .. not now. But maybe in the 
future.



On 7/22/2016 6:31 AM, Gerd Petermann wrote:


Hi Dave,


"there's no known way to simply append that tag to a label or highway 
name. Correct?"


no, I think that should be possible when the way has the maxspeed tag.

I refered to a different feature which shows a road sign with the 
maxspeed value


and also allows to warn the driver when he is faster.


Gerd


*Von:* Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com>
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 22:18:54
*An:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
*Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?
Thanks for the responses.

I assumed because we can append ref tags to a highway name one could 
just do the same for maxspeed.  It's just another tag after all. 
Obviously, there is a lot of interplay between mkgmap and the Garmin 
internals that I don't understand.


Gerd, what you're saying is that there's no known way to simply append 
that tag to a label or highway name. Correct?


Dave

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Gerd Petermann 
<gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com 
<mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


Well,


the default style rules in mkgmap evaluate maxspeed to calculate a
so called road speed value which is used

by the Garmin routing algo.

But we don't know any way to store the value in the map so that it
woud show up in the device when you

pass the node. I know that modern Garmin maps have this feature
using so called NT maps, I don't know

any place in the older img format where this information could be
stored, but maybe we just didn't find

it yet.


Gerd


*Von:* Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org <mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>>
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 08:55:27
*An:* David Swarthout; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
*Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Dave Swarthout
<daveswarth...@gmail.com <mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I posted this on the Garmin OSM forum but nobody responded.
Maybe someone here can help with this.

I recently added maxspeed to many highways in my neighborhood
and am looking for a way to have them display on my Garmin
Montana. Mostly I would use this information while driving
here and there to show me roads that don't have a maxspeed tag
already. I'm looking for a style directive that will append
maxspeed information to the highway-symbol and ref for the
standard highway types.


I'm not currently aware of anything in the OSM to Garmin toolchain
that is capable of encoding maxspeed as of yet. As far as I'm
aware, the only data consumer that is using lane or speed data is
Osmand at this time.

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Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

[Gerd Petermann]

Hi Dave,


"there's no known way to simply append that tag to a label or highway name. 
Correct?"

no, I think that should be possible when the way has the maxspeed tag.

I refered to a different feature which shows a road sign with the maxspeed value

and also allows to warn the driver when he is faster.


Gerd


Von: Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 22:18:54
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

Thanks for the responses.

I assumed because we can append ref tags to a highway name one could just do 
the same for maxspeed.  It's just another tag after all. Obviously, there is a 
lot of interplay between mkgmap and the Garmin internals that I don't 
understand.

Gerd, what you're saying is that there's no known way to simply append that tag 
to a label or highway name. Correct?

Dave

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Gerd Petermann 
<gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com<mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Well,


the default style rules in mkgmap evaluate maxspeed to calculate a so called 
road speed value which is used

by the Garmin routing algo.

But we don't know any way to store the value in the map so that it woud show up 
in the device when you

pass the node. I know that modern Garmin maps have this feature using so called 
NT maps, I don't know

any place in the older img format where this information could be stored, but 
maybe we just didn't find

it yet.


Gerd


Von: Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org<mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 08:55:27
An: David Swarthout; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Dave Swarthout 
<daveswarth...@gmail.com<mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I posted this on the Garmin OSM forum but nobody responded. Maybe someone here 
can help with this.

I recently added maxspeed to many highways in my neighborhood and am looking 
for a way to have them display on my Garmin Montana. Mostly I would use this 
information while driving here and there to show me roads that don't have a 
maxspeed tag already. I'm looking for a style directive that will append 
maxspeed information to the highway-symbol and ref for the standard highway 
types.

I'm not currently aware of anything in the OSM to Garmin toolchain that is 
capable of encoding maxspeed as of yet.  As far as I'm aware, the only data 
consumer that is using lane or speed data is Osmand at this time.

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Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

[Dave Swarthout]

Thanks for the responses.

I assumed because we can append ref tags to a highway name one could just
do the same for maxspeed.  It's just another tag after all. Obviously,
there is a lot of interplay between mkgmap and the Garmin internals that I
don't understand.

Gerd, what you're saying is that there's no known way to simply append that
tag to a label or highway name. Correct?

Dave

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Gerd Petermann <
gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Well,
>
>
> the default style rules in mkgmap evaluate maxspeed to calculate a so
> called road speed value which is used
>
> by the Garmin routing algo.
>
> But we don't know any way to store the value in the map so that it woud
> show up in the device when you
>
> pass the node. I know that modern Garmin maps have this feature using so
> called NT maps, I don't know
>
> any place in the older img format where this information could be stored,
> but maybe we just didn't find
>
> it yet.
>
>
> Gerd
> --
> *Von:* Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org>
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 08:55:27
> *An:* David Swarthout; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I posted this on the Garmin OSM forum but nobody responded. Maybe someone
>> here can help with this.
>>
>> I recently added maxspeed to many highways in my neighborhood and am
>> looking for a way to have them display on my Garmin Montana. Mostly I would
>> use this information while driving here and there to show me roads that
>> don't have a maxspeed tag already. I'm looking for a style directive that
>> will append maxspeed information to the highway-symbol and ref for the
>> standard highway types.
>>
>
> I'm not currently aware of anything in the OSM to Garmin toolchain that is
> capable of encoding maxspeed as of yet.  As far as I'm aware, the only data
> consumer that is using lane or speed data is Osmand at this time.
>
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Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

[Gerd Petermann]

Well,


the default style rules in mkgmap evaluate maxspeed to calculate a so called 
road speed value which is used

by the Garmin routing algo.

But we don't know any way to store the value in the map so that it woud show up 
in the device when you

pass the node. I know that modern Garmin maps have this feature using so called 
NT maps, I don't know

any place in the older img format where this information could be stored, but 
maybe we just didn't find

it yet.


Gerd


Von: Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 08:55:27
An: David Swarthout; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Dave Swarthout 
<daveswarth...@gmail.com<mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I posted this on the Garmin OSM forum but nobody responded. Maybe someone here 
can help with this.

I recently added maxspeed to many highways in my neighborhood and am looking 
for a way to have them display on my Garmin Montana. Mostly I would use this 
information while driving here and there to show me roads that don't have a 
maxspeed tag already. I'm looking for a style directive that will append 
maxspeed information to the highway-symbol and ref for the standard highway 
types.

I'm not currently aware of anything in the OSM to Garmin toolchain that is 
capable of encoding maxspeed as of yet.  As far as I'm aware, the only data 
consumer that is using lane or speed data is Osmand at this time.
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Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

[Volker Schmidt]

If you only want to use it when driving a car, why not consider a cheap
Garmin car navigation device. The Lambertus maps on nuvi 55 show maxspeed,
as far as I recollect.


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Re: [Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

[Paul Johnson]

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Dave Swarthout 
wrote:
>
> I posted this on the Garmin OSM forum but nobody responded. Maybe someone
> here can help with this.
>
> I recently added maxspeed to many highways in my neighborhood and am
> looking for a way to have them display on my Garmin Montana. Mostly I would
> use this information while driving here and there to show me roads that
> don't have a maxspeed tag already. I'm looking for a style directive that
> will append maxspeed information to the highway-symbol and ref for the
> standard highway types.
>

I'm not currently aware of anything in the OSM to Garmin toolchain that is
capable of encoding maxspeed as of yet.  As far as I'm aware, the only data
consumer that is using lane or speed data is Osmand at this time.
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[Tagging] How can I display maxspeed on my Garmin?

[Dave Swarthout]

Hi,

Hello,

I posted this on the Garmin OSM forum but nobody responded. Maybe someone
here can help with this.

I recently added maxspeed to many highways in my neighborhood and am
looking for a way to have them display on my Garmin Montana. Mostly I would
use this information while driving here and there to show me roads that
don't have a maxspeed tag already. I'm looking for a style directive that
will append maxspeed information to the highway-symbol and ref for the
standard highway types.

I have these lines in my lines style currently:

highway=trunk {name '${ref|highway-symbol:hbox} ${name}' |
'${ref|highway-symbol:hbox}' | '${name}'; addlabel '${ref} (${name})' }
highway=primary {name '${ref|highway-symbol:box} ${name}' |
'${ref|highway-symbol:box}' | '${name}'; addlabel '${ref} (${name})' }
highway=secondary | highway=tertiary {name '${ref|highway-symbol:oval}
${name}' | '${ref|highway-symbol:oval}' | '${name}'; addlabel '${ref}
(${name})' }
highway=* {name '${name}' | '${ref}' }

I tried echotags to see if my code works but it shows only the tags on the
object, not any that were created by directives like the ones above. Here
is one of my attempts to modify the directive by adding in a maxspeed value
for highway=primary:

highway=primary {echotags 'primary hwy'; name '${ref|highway-symbol:hbox}
${name} (${maxspeed})' | '${ref|highway-symbol:box} ${name}' |
'${ref|highway-symbol:box}' | '${name}'; addlabel '${ref} (${name})' }

Can anyone help?

Dave
-- 
Dave Swarthout
Homer, Alaska
Chiang Mai, Thailand
Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
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