Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-28 Thread fly
On 26.06.2013 18:35, Clifford Snow wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:55 AM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com mailto:lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Does not work for me ! I have several areas of mixed use of industrial, commercial and residential. Often living is allowed but

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 26.06.2013 um 00:25 schrieb Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us: A new tag called residential, where the value specifies the type of residential, such as: residential=apartment residential=condo residential=co-op residential=single_room_occupancy (these would be open for

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Martin Koppenhöfer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: Not sure if I can agree, what does this tag residential express? Is this a building type? A building usage tag? How does it relate to landuse, how to building=building-type and established values? Landuse is a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-26 Thread fly
Am 26.06.2013 17:28, schrieb Clifford Snow: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Martin Koppenhöfer dieterdre...@gmail.com mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if I can agree, what does this tag residential express? Is this a building type? A building usage tag? How does it

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/26 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com Landuse is a different issue. For example, my condo is in a commercial landuse area. Because the condo building includes two levels on commercial space, having residential units within the commercial landuse is acceptable. In fact, it is highly

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:55 AM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Does not work for me ! I have several areas of mixed use of industrial, commercial and residential. Often living is allowed but I know streets where it is only allowed on one side or even changing from house number to

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: After discussing it on IRC, how does this sound as a potential for a proposal: A new tag called residential, where the value specifies the type of residential, such as: residential=apartment residential=condo

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-24 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2013-06-23 20:54, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: While we're on the subject of building tagging: Prior to major building outline imports, OSM tended to contain mostly important or notable building outlines. People might do a business district, or the largest buildings in town, or the church, or zoo...

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 23/giu/2013, at 20:45, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: Then we need many or all of: building=yes commercial= residential= hotel= amenity=parking man_made=tower shop= Every building is of a type, and this type preferably goes into the building value. IMHO we should go

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-23 Thread Serge Wroclawski
After discussing it on IRC, how does this sound as a potential for a proposal: A new tag called residential, where the value specifies the type of residential, such as: residential=apartment residential=condo residential=co-op residential=single_room_occupancy (these would be open for

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Serge; So you mean for an existing building outline tagged: building=retail You might recognize the residential separately: building=retail residential=apartment;condo And start putting in nodes for each (ground level) business? --- Note that a substantial number of high rises have three or

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-23 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: Serge; So you mean for an existing building outline tagged: building=retail You might recognize the residential separately: building=retail residential=apartment;condo No. building=retail doesn't make sense for a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.comwrote: building=yes and then add appropriate nodes, which in this case, would include residential=[SOME VALUE] Then we need many or all of: - building=yes - commercial= - residential= - hotel= -

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
While we're on the subject of building tagging: Prior to major building outline imports, OSM tended to contain mostly important or notable building outlines. People might do a business district, or the largest buildings in town, or the church, or zoo... but few did every house and garden shed.

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The City of Oakland's downtown: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.80321lon=-122.26395zoom=15layers=M I think is an example of a map that with organic building outlines looks quite pleasing. Add all the building outlines and you loose something... ___

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-23 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: building=yes and then add appropriate nodes, which in this case, would include residential=[SOME VALUE] Then we need many or all of: building=yes commercial= residential= hotel= amenity=parking man_made=tower

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-23 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Bryce, this is entirely a rendering issue. Map creators can (and always to some degree do) select to display only features with certain tags, or that have names, or are of a certain size, etc, depending on their audience and what they're trying to show. For example, notable buildings for

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Indeed, yet rendering issues have to work on a foundation of tagging. In the old days of paper maps a cartographer made the decisions about what's notable enough to show. Here we have to do it with tags (and consensus tags at that). To infer notability of building outlines, there are some

[Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-22 Thread Clifford Snow
Like many large cities, we have apartments that are on the upper stories of multi-use buildings. The lower level(s) usually contain shops and business services. My thoughts are 1) tag the building as an apartment building, and just add the businesses and 2) add a node as an apartment, but I'm not

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-22 Thread Elliott Plack
This is a tough one. Maybe use the height attribute? I'd tag the bldg with its predominant use though.  — Elliott Plack Sent from Mailbox on iPhone 5 about.me/elliottp On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Like many large cities, we have apartments that

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-22 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Like many large cities, we have apartments that are on the upper stories of multi-use buildings. The lower level(s) usually contain shops and business services. This is nearly every single building in New York City,