Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-26 Thread André Pirard
Title: Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation Hi, So, the conclusion of my Loomio test is that it does not let the user choose which Google account it uses during account creation, it uses the connected account and, despite the user cancels the Login operation

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-26 Thread Kotya Karapetyan
Hi Andre, I am not sure what point you are trying to make. You should say what you mean when you speak of e-mail (not being the best tool). If you mean that a plain mail server or list server is insufficient, one can agree. But if you say that the user shouldn't use e-mail, that is wrong. 1)

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread AYTOUN RALPH
Well, I guess I am also out of this. Needs me to log in to make a comment but appears I have done something wrong because it just does not work for me. I do not have a Google account and my Virgin email is unacceptable. So I cannot comment. Question:... Can you include pictures or diagrams as

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread Dan S
I don't know if I need to say this, but Ralph, Andre, please could you send report your problems to the loomio people? You do that here: https://github.com/loomio/loomio/issues Dan 2015-03-23 16:42 GMT+00:00 AYTOUN RALPH ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com: Well, I guess I am also out of this. Needs me

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread Dan S
OSM is a very large community with much accumulated knowledge and skill - it's bound to be quite conservative, and for good reason. The challenge is to allow experimental innovations to breathe without disrupting the community. We'll never be able to organise a vote (ha!) to switch to loomio all

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-03-23 01:18, Dave Swarthout wrote : I'll second the notion that we need something better than the current system. It is an anachronism! My first look at Loomio was good, I was impressed, but my immediate thought was, it'll never get accepted into OSM On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:57 AM,

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread David Bannon
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 19:07 +0100, Kotya Karapetyan wrote: We'll definitely need to find a smart and soft way to attract people to a different platform. I think its better than the email list. For a number of reasons. And while the list also wins a couple of points, overall, Loomio is

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread Kotya Karapetyan
Question:... Can you include pictures or diagrams as visual arguments to support your reasoning? Doesn't seems to be possible. I was too quick. It *is* possible. Here is an example. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread Kotya Karapetyan
Now I am missing the like link :) We'll definitely need to find a smart and soft way to attract people to a different platform. However, though I agree that email is not the best tool, we need a very good alternative rather than a marginally better option first. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:40 AM,

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread AYTOUN RALPH
Thanks Kotya, Being able to include pictures, etc, is at least is a great positive. I still need to sort out what has happened to stop me from signing up for the group. If this is going to be a common problem then it may discourage some from getting involved. Or we need to give more accurate

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread Dan S
Yes they can. Probably best to try it out - sorry that you're stuck outside of it at the moment! 2015-03-23 18:36 GMT+00:00 AYTOUN RALPH ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com: The next question is The results of the graph are based on the response of the person when they post their comment. This

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread AYTOUN RALPH
The next question is The results of the graph are based on the response of the person when they post their comment. This affects the result of the pie chart because it starts to clock up how people feel before all the comments for and against have been posted. Those later arguments could

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread Kotya Karapetyan
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:42 PM, AYTOUN RALPH ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com wrote: Well, I guess I am also out of this. Needs me to log in to make a comment but appears I have done something wrong because it just does not work for me. I do not have a Google account and my Virgin email is

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread Kotya Karapetyan
I was *too* quick. Here is an example: https://www.loomio.org/d/1E3YAaz0/test-images ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-22 Thread Dave Swarthout
I'll second the notion that we need something better than the current system. It is an anachronism! My first look at Loomio was good, I was impressed, but my immediate thought was, it'll never get accepted into OSM On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: It's

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-22 Thread Dan S
It's interesting. I hadn't realised it's open-source too, so osm could run its own version of it if we wanted to. Dan 2015-03-20 22:38 GMT+00:00 Kotya Karapetyan kotya.li...@gmail.com: Dear all, In an attempt to find a better tool for our proposal discussions, Loomio has been mentioned. At

[Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-20 Thread Kotya Karapetyan
Dear all, In an attempt to find a better tool for our proposal discussions, Loomio has been mentioned. At the very first glance it looks like a feasible alternative to the mailing list and the forum. Let's take a look together: https://www.loomio.org/g/tknueHrw/osm-tagging And let me know if