Re: [Tagging] No Entry Signs

[Dave F.]

In this instance there is no 'plug' construction. V. strange. To allow 
emergency access to the school. maybe? http://tinyurl.com/o4a5nmd


On 07/12/2015 15:06, Colin Smale wrote:


I would insert a very short way segment with oneway=yes, 
cycleway=opposite. You often get this kind of construction at the end 
of the road - I think it's called a "plug". But this one is in the 
middle of the road, splitting it into two sections: one part for the 
residential stuff, and one part for the shops. Wonder who thought of that.


//colin

On 2015-12-07 15:29, jonathan wrote:


Hi all,

Hopefully this is the right mailing list for this query.

Came across this scenario today, not seen before.

A road that part way down has a no entry sign (excepting bicycles), I 
would have expected the road on the other side of the sign to be 
oneway, but not so.  It is two way for its full length.


I think it is to stop people taking shortcuts from the main road, so 
the only way I could think to map this was with a  node on the way 
where the sign is with noexit=yes, noexit:direction=forwards, 
noexit:bicycle=no


Here's the node: http://openstreetmap.org/node/3881874213

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Jonathan



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Re: [Tagging] No Entry Signs

[Paul Johnson]

Looks similar to (but perhaps opposite to the situation on) Wander Way, in
Salem, Oregon which is briefly one way to prevent congestion in an
intersection
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@44.9328535,-123.0121099,3a,75y,12.03h,75.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2dc3iR2D6U7fTCbUF7MmtA!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
.

 The UK situation linked to upthread seems to be to allow driveway access
from the main thoroughfare.

On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Dave F.  wrote:

> In this instance there is no 'plug' construction. V. strange. To allow
> emergency access to the school. maybe? http://tinyurl.com/o4a5nmd
>
>
> On 07/12/2015 15:06, Colin Smale wrote:
>
> I would insert a very short way segment with oneway=yes,
> cycleway=opposite. You often get this kind of construction at the end of
> the road - I think it's called a "plug". But this one is in the middle of
> the road, splitting it into two sections: one part for the residential
> stuff, and one part for the shops. Wonder who thought of that.
>
>
> //colin
>
> On 2015-12-07 15:29, jonathan wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Hopefully this is the right mailing list for this query.
>
> Came across this scenario today, not seen before.
>
> A road that part way down has a no entry sign (excepting bicycles), I
> would have expected the road on the other side of the sign to be oneway,
> but not so.  It is two way for its full length.
>
> I think it is to stop people taking shortcuts from the main road, so the
> only way I could think to map this was with a  node on the way where the
> sign is with noexit=yes, noexit:direction=forwards, noexit:bicycle=no
>
> Here's the node: http://openstreetmap.org/node/3881874213
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jonathan
>
>
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Re: [Tagging] No Entry Signs

[Colin Smale]

I would insert a very short way segment with oneway=yes,
cycleway=opposite. You often get this kind of construction at the end of
the road - I think it's called a "plug". But this one is in the middle
of the road, splitting it into two sections: one part for the
residential stuff, and one part for the shops. Wonder who thought of
that.

//colin 

On 2015-12-07 15:29, jonathan wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Hopefully this is the right mailing list for this query.
> 
> Came across this scenario today, not seen before.
> 
> A road that part way down has a no entry sign (excepting bicycles), I would 
> have expected the road on the other side of the sign to be oneway, but not 
> so.  It is two way for its full length.
> 
> I think it is to stop people taking shortcuts from the main road, so the only 
> way I could think to map this was with a  node on the way where the sign is 
> with noexit=yes, noexit:direction=forwards, noexit:bicycle=no
> 
> Here's the node: http://openstreetmap.org/node/3881874213
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jonathan
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[Tagging] No Entry Signs

[jonathan]

Hi all,

Hopefully this is the right mailing list for this query.

Came across this scenario today, not seen before.

A road that part way down has a no entry sign (excepting bicycles), I 
would have expected the road on the other side of the sign to be oneway, 
but not so.  It is two way for its full length.


I think it is to stop people taking shortcuts from the main road, so the 
only way I could think to map this was with a  node on the way where the 
sign is with noexit=yes, noexit:direction=forwards, noexit:bicycle=no


Here's the node: http://openstreetmap.org/node/3881874213

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Jonathan

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Re: [Tagging] No Entry Signs

[jonathan]

Thanks Heiko, I've changed it as per your suggestion, seems the most 
elegant way of doing it.


Jonathan

http://bigfatfrog67.me

On 07/12/2015 14:56, Heiko Eckenreiter wrote:

Hi Jonathan,


A road that part way down has a no entry sign (excepting bicycles), I
would have expected the road on the other side of the sign to be oneway,
but not so.  It is two way for its full length.
Here's the node: http://openstreetmap.org/node/3881874213

I would go with a restriction relation: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:restriction

In this case you'd put three members into the relation:
1. the from-way with role "from"
2. the via-node with role "via"
3. the to-way with role "to"

The tagging of the relation like this:
type=restriction
restriction=no_entry
except=bicycle


Best regards,
Heiko



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