Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-21 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 21.08.2017 17:41, Tobias Zwick wrote: Any reason why you would prefer produce=chilli_pepper over produce=chili? I'd prefer the double-L for the more BrE version. chilli_pepper vs. chilli would give a focus on the spicy plant opposed to the dish "Chilli con/sin carne", and a clear contrast

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-21 Thread Tobias Zwick
Any reason why you would prefer produce=chilli_pepper over produce=chili? Generally, (not directly as an answer to you), subtagging with genus etc are nice, but I am seeing this out of the perspective of the surveyor. While a surveyor can surely distinguish apples from bananas, he may not be

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 21. Aug 2017, at 01:31, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >> “produce=pepper” and if I am confident of the variety I can also add that >> tag. > > > I'd not use "variety=" but simply use "apple=jonathan". I prefer "variety" as it can be used for many similar

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Aug 2017, at 22:15, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > There are tags for genus [1] and species [2] in OSM, where you can use the > latin name. Beside these exceptions, tagging language is British English +1, I agree that tagging (additionally) the

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-21 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 21.08.2017 01:57, marc marc wrote: Le 21. 08. 17 à 00:07, Tod Fitch a écrit : e.g. black pepper corns could be “produce=pepper”, “variety=black_corn”. subtab is very useful to have usable datas with a level of detail that depends on the need. While I am generally in favour of

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-20 Thread marc marc
Le 21. 08. 17 à 00:07, Tod Fitch a écrit : > e.g. black pepper corns could be “produce=pepper”, “variety=black_corn”. +1 ! please avoid adding too many value to "top level" tag, If not, this 'll be like landuse : it is impossible to select "all agricultural landuses" of an area without first

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-20 Thread Warin
On 21-Aug-17 08:07 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: I am bemused by this thread. I know that when I am sent to the grocers to get peppers I’ve never been asked to get a “chili pepper”. Depending on the desired dish it might be a “Anaheim”, “Chipotle”, “Jalapeño”, “Serrano”, “Habaneros” or other type of

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-20 Thread Tod Fitch
I am bemused by this thread. I know that when I am sent to the grocers to get peppers I’ve never been asked to get a “chili pepper”. Depending on the desired dish it might be a “Anaheim”, “Chipotle”, “Jalapeño”, “Serrano”, “Habaneros” or other type of the spicy peppers. Those are just a few of

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-20 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 20.08.2017 22:48, Kevin Kenny wrote: The English word 'pepper' also applies to several plants in the genera Aframomum, Capsicum, Pimenta, Schinus, and Zanthophylum (plus others that are used in traditional herbal medicine but not for the kitchen). > I think that the original poster wanted to

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-20 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 20.08.2017 21:50, Tobias Zwick wrote: >> >> And here is the wikipedia article for Piper (plant): >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_(plant) > > > Well that is the Genus of 2000 different species, of which one is

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-20 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 20.08.2017 21:50, Tobias Zwick wrote: And here is the wikipedia article for Piper (plant): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_(plant) Well that is the Genus of 2000 different species, of which one is "Piper nigrum", the common spice. There are tags for genus [1] and species [2] in OSM,

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-20 Thread Tobias Zwick
You are right. Here is the correct picture: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/master/app/src/main/res/drawable-xxhdpi/produce_piper.jpg And here is the wikipedia article for Piper (plant): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_(plant) Tobias On 20/08/2017 15:02, Tom

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-20 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Number 2 and 3 are fine for me. However I could not find 'piper' as a synonym for the spice in my English dictionaries. A piper is a player of a bagpipe or sometimes a flute, thus that is highly confusing. IMHO it would be sufficient to clarify that produce=pepper means the

Re: [Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-20 Thread Tobias Zwick
Whoops, it is https://raw.githubusercontent.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/master/app/src/main/res/drawable-xxhdpi/produce_pepper.jpg https://raw.githubusercontent.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/master/app/src/main/res/drawable-xxhdpi/produce_chili.jpg

[Tagging] Pepper: Chili, piper, bell pepper

2017-08-20 Thread Tobias Zwick
Hey This is a follow up of my earlier question about whether to use trees=, crop= or produce= for orchard produces. I'd like to establish produce=pepper as deprecated because it is ambiguous. All the following are also known as pepper (with picture): 1. produce=piper aka "pepper", "piper",