Two more types came to my mind:
1. Courtyard area (Дворовая территория)
Another type of service road that is currently probably not tagged with
any subtag came to my mind right now: Something like a multi-use
courtyard area bounded by buildings around the
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 16:27, David Dean wrote:
The main problem with this is the retrofitting of the missing service=* tags
Unless we start a mega campaign to add service=* to all highway=service, we
will have to live with the actual situation for ever.
Some roads are "service" only and other
Once again, thanks for everyone's great comments, but I'm not entirely sure
what, if any, consensus we can draw from our discussions here.
To my mind, we are all in agreement that we should have values for the
service tag for 'main parking access' and 'main property/campus access',
although some
On 03/08/2020 19.56, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 01:10, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
Parking lot access roads are a common example; I don't really feel that
these are "driveways", but I also prefer to reserve "parking_aisle" for
ways that actually *have* parking spaces along them.
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 10:17, Jarek Piórkowski wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 19:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick
> wrote:
> > No, driveway/-through is good for a fuel station, as well as anywhere
> else that you don't get out of your car to be served eg take-away, car
> wash, bottle shop (liquor store)
>
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 19:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> No, driveway/-through is good for a fuel station, as well as anywhere else
> that you don't get out of your car to be served eg take-away, car wash,
> bottle shop (liquor store)
In some parts of the world you have to get out of your car
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 01:10, Matthew Woehlke
wrote:
>
> It's also often unclear if an otherwise undesignated road with
> provides access to, or navigation of, a larger area (consider a mall
> perimeter road as an example), should be a "driveway".
>
> *If* we need a tag (on which note, I'll point
On 01/08/2020 20.40, David Dean wrote:
I'm interested in proposing and/or documenting existing tagging approaches
of the wiki to ensure that all highway=service ways can have a service=?
associated tag. Having done, so I'm planning on resurrecting
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 14:02, Tobias Zwick wrote:
Maybe service=property_access would be a little more clear.
Or not. Because it overlaps with service=driveway. Especially as property
is often used to describe dwellings.
> Of course, strictly speaking, pretty much all the above are also
>
> For the second type of highway=service with no service tagging, what
> about using service=access?
The issue with this is that basically this is the definition of
highway=service already without any extra tags: It provides access to
something. Be it the rear/side of buildings (alley), the
service=parking_access also sounds most clear to me.
On the other hand, service=parking is already used almost 2000 times so
documenting that as "main access road in a parking" would just be
documenting the status quo, no proposal necessary, which is certainly
easier.
IF after research one can
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 05:09, David Dean wrote:
>
> For the second type of highway=service with no service tagging, what about
> using service=access?
>
How about because not all service roads that don't currently fit into
service=* would be viewed by some as access roads? The service
roads in
Am Mo., 3. Aug. 2020 um 11:06 Uhr schrieb Tom Pfeifer <
t.pfei...@computer.org>:
> Possibilities discussed were:
>
> service=parking_access
> service=main
> service=access
> service=major
apart "access", all of these seem better than "parking". My preference
would go to the more neutral "main"
I agree that it would be helpful to distinguish more subtypes of
highway=service.
However I find the proposed 'service=parking' misleading, as it suggests the
way itself is
used for parking, not that it provides access to such facility.
I started a similar discussion four years ago, here is
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> On 3. Aug 2020, at 06:09, David Dean wrote:
>
> On the main parking road, I think we are largely in agreement that
> service=parking would be a good addition to OSM documentation (and is already
> in use throughout the world, as such).
if we need a specific service
Thanks for the great feedback, everyone.
Firstly, I don't want anyone to feel that just tagging highway=service is
wrong, and you have to have a service tag. Any information available on the
map is more useful than no information. I just want the ability to
differentiate between 'we don't know
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> On 3. Aug 2020, at 00:18, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
>>
>> So what all these have in common is that they are not public roads not
>> intended for through-traffic. They are all on private/public properties.
>> So maybe they could be summarized under service=property, with
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 05:49, Tobias Zwick wrote:
>
> So what all these have in common is that they are not public roads not
> intended for through-traffic. They are all on private/public properties.
> So maybe they could be summarized under service=property, with a
> description like "roads on
> - Roads through cemeteries
> - Roads through campgrounds
> - Roads through schools
> - Roads through universities
> - Roads through hotels
> - Roads through museums
> - Roads through prisons
> - Roads through military areas
> - Roads through airports
> - Roads through retirement homes
On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 01:04:15AM -0400, Jmapb wrote:
> On 8/1/2020 8:40 PM, David Dean wrote:
> > I'm interested in proposing and/or documenting existing tagging
> > approaches of the wiki to ensure that all highway=service ways can
> > have a service=? associated tag.
>
> Hi David -- My
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> On 2. Aug 2020, at 11:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
> Sorry, means nothing, at least to me?
it’s meant to be a coined word for an access road that leads to more access
roads, that collects different or multiple kind of access roads, in short a
more important access
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 18:55, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
>
> Proposal: service=access_collector
>
Sorry, means nothing, at least to me?
Thanks
Graeme
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> On 2. Aug 2020, at 10:19, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
> wrote:
>
> service=parking seems like a good idea
> to me
too generic for me, also not suitable where the road is not just for the
parking.
Proposal: service=access_collector
Cheers Martin
service=parking seems like a good idea
to me
2 Aug 2020, 02:40 by dd...@ieee.org:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm interested in proposing and/or documenting existing tagging approaches of
> the wiki to ensure that all highway=service ways can have a service=?
> associated tag. Having done, so I'm
On 8/1/2020 8:40 PM, David Dean wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm interested in proposing and/or documenting existing tagging
approaches of the wiki to ensure that all highway=service ways can
have a service=? associated tag.
Hi David -- My feeling is that often highway=service, without a
service=*
Hi everyone,
I'm interested in proposing and/or documenting existing tagging approaches
of the wiki to ensure that all highway=service ways can have a service=?
associated tag. Having done, so I'm planning on resurrecting
https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues/808 to help people get
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