On 6 June 2015 at 02:56, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/06/2015 11:13 AM, pmailkeey . wrote:
On 5 June 2015 at 06:01, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:14 AM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
Don't confuse searching for an object with how they are
On 6 June 2015 at 03:33, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
All the double Ls are disappearing. Traveling is a common spelling now.
Google traveling vs travelling.
My spell checker marks the double L version as misspelled.
surely you mean misspeled ???
The one that really gets me is
Am 06.06.2015 um 04:33 schrieb John Willis jo...@mac.com:
All the double Ls are disappearing. Traveling is a common spelling now.
Google traveling vs travelling.
My spell checker marks the double L version as misspelled.
double L is British English, one is AE
Your spellchecker is
On Jun 5, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
They have a baguette for a bakery instead of the bagel icon.
yeah, you’re correct - having a Japanese version of OSM would solve icon
rendering choices. It’s a good idea. I was trying to use it as an example of a
little
shop=tea; coffee
The 'problem' is there is no wiki page explaining how to combine values.
And no explanation as to the overall concept of OSM tagging scheme.
The real problem is it isn't suported by the renderer and some other
apps, that's why people don't advocate for it too much.
There is an obvious limit to the number of types of icons that can be
rendered on any one map before it becomes incomprehensible. However, more
than one renderer can use the same data, depending on the intended purpose.
There are also applications that let you inquire for every location tagged
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:40 AM, John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
There is an obvious limit to the number of types of icons that can be
rendered on any one map before it becomes incomprehensible.
Rendering can choose to use the same symbol for two tags.
One tag however can't become two
Agreed. If you look at all of what I said, I was arguing that concerns
about how many types of things could be rendered should not prevent
detailed tagging. It is always possible to go from a complex data set
to a simplified rendering; going from a simple data set to a complex
rendering is
On 5 June 2015 at 04:29, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote:
Most of the languages used by europeans are at least parseable - we can
tell the difference between the names between Italian or german towns -
even if we can’t read them, because we can at least recognize the letters.
But with a character
On 5 June 2015 at 06:01, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:14 AM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
Don't confuse searching for an object with how they are
sorted/labeled/and represented - nor forget about the inflexibility in
OSM/-carto to get them represented
On 6/06/2015 11:13 AM, pmailkeey . wrote:
On 5 June 2015 at 06:01, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com
mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:14 AM, John Willis jo...@mac.com
mailto:jo...@mac.com wrote:
Don't confuse searching for an object with how they
On 4 June 2015 at 15:20, John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
I have no objection to users tagging in their local language. I also
have no objection to those users also using tags in a language that has
been agreed upon for use in an international context, or to others
subsequently
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:14 AM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
Don't confuse searching for an object with how they are sorted/labeled/and
represented - nor forget about the inflexibility in OSM/-carto to get them
represented differently. (Take-out bag?) Or support regional renderings
On 4 June 2015 at 23:40, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
In Japan, every single road sign - hundreds of thousands - is in Japanese
and English. That sign 40km up in the mountains, where no tourist would
drive on a rural tertiary road - English is there. Every single exit sign
on the
On 5/06/2015 9:54 AM, Michał Brzozowski wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:30 PM, John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
OSM needs to provide for objects that fall under more than one category,
whether it is done by allowing multiple tags with the same key, using
semicolon-delimited values, or
On 5 June 2015 at 00:54, Michał Brzozowski www.ha...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:30 PM, John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
OSM needs to provide for objects that fall under more than one category,
whether it is done by allowing multiple tags with the same key, using
On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:40 AM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
Do you feel that maps for any given area should only be available to those
fluent in the local language or languages?
I realized I didn’t answer your question.
TL;DR :
- OSM should match the “ground truth” - which is that
On 4 June 2015 at 13:35, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 04.06.2015 um 02:04 schrieb pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com:
shop=photographic
16 uses globally
shop=optical instruments
not used
Shop=image_recording
not used
film processing ?
On 4 June 2015 at 01:30, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
Too much detail .. there is a balance!
shop=fork
shop=spoon
shop=table_knife
shop=cleaver
shop=M10_nut
shop=m10_bolt
shop=M10_screw
Where does the balance occur for OSM?
OSM:balance=no.
And that's because different people
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On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:20 PM, John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
I have no objection to users tagging in their local language. I also have no
objection to those users also using tags in a language that has been agreed
upon for use in an international context, or
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:30 PM, John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
OSM needs to provide for objects that fall under more than one category,
whether it is done by allowing multiple tags with the same key, using
semicolon-delimited values, or some other means. One often-quoted expression
I have no objection to users tagging in their local language. I also have
no objection to those users also using tags in a language that has been
agreed upon for use in an international context, or to others subsequently
adding tags for other languages. Do you feel that maps for any given area
OSM needs to provide for objects that fall under more than one category,
whether it is done by allowing multiple tags with the same key, using
semicolon-delimited values, or some other means. One often-quoted
expression is that OSM needs to show the ground truth, and it is
frequently the
Am 04.06.2015 um 01:39 schrieb Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:
I think there are shops that only do prints, and yet others that only sell
cameras
shops to print photos around here are either big drugstores, or copyshops
(typically they print not only photos but also large wall prints
Am 04.06.2015 um 01:59 schrieb John Willis jo...@mac.com:
Why is my wooden home goods store any less deserving of its tag than an ice
cream shop? At one point in time, there were more of these japanese shops
than all ice cream shops in the world.
Its because there is not one in Los
Am 04.06.2015 um 02:04 schrieb pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com:
shop=photographic
16 uses globally
shop=optical instruments
not used
Shop=image_recording
not used
film processing ?
not used
You continue to invent new tags rather than referring to those that are
On 4/06/2015 10:04 AM, pmailkeey . wrote:
On 3 June 2015 at 03:25, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com
mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I've added the tag shop=camera on a node .. reflecting ONE shop I
have mapped.
There are others that I can tag (when I get to them).
On 4 June 2015 at 00:59, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
Its been an uphill battle to get even the most basic (read: required)
Japanese mapping conventions accepted. Traffic light rendering is still a
big stinky pile of garbage. Kanji rendering is still really bad compared to
Roman
On 3 June 2015 at 03:25, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I've added the tag shop=camera on a node .. reflecting ONE shop I have
mapped.
There are others that I can tag (when I get to them).
They sell cameras, video or still, tripods, memory cards, filters etc etc.
Any idea for a
On 4/06/2015 9:59 AM, John Willis wrote:
What about a fixtures store?
Toto (the maker of those famous Japanese toilets) has a huge number of
chain stores that sell just bathroom and kitchen fixtures. They don't
sell anything other than toilets, tubs, and sinks there. Its not a
home store,
The thing is these services are also often available in supermarkets,
copyshops etc. and you don't want to put shop=photo on those.
And if a shop has both cameras and prints then you can use shop=photo if
the camera selection isn't that big like just some pointshoot cameras
or you can use
On 4/06/2015 3:37 AM, Andreas Goss wrote:
Created/Changed the Wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcamera
I think what we need might be a tag that in general indicates where
you can get prints
I think that is the present shop=photo ...
but its wili description is not
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On Jun 3, 2015, at 10:46 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:50 AM, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote:
How many people are going to understand that I need a “wooden home goods”
shop tag? There is an old traditional store that sells all the
Chain stores usually deal in camera sales and prints with a smattering of
accessories and services, or a store that does head shots also rents gear or
the like. They are usually a mixed bag.
But even in my sleepy little town, there is a “camera” store.
It is not a photo store, he doesn’t
2015-06-03 11:50 GMT+02:00 johnw jo...@mac.com:
But even in my sleepy little town, there is a “camera” store.
It is not a photo store, he doesn’t sell film, memory cards or prints.
so this is the distinction, selling also film and memory cards and prints?
The current definition for
On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 15:54 +1000, Warin wrote:
I note on the shop=photo discussion page
Even though shop=camera redirects here, the description does not
actually include selling cameras (or similar electronic photographic
equipment). So do cameras belong into shop=electronics? Aceman444
Am 03.06.2015 um 04:25 schrieb Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:
I've added the tag shop=camera on a node .. reflecting ONE shop I have
mapped.
There are others that I can tag (when I get to them).
They sell cameras, video or still, tripods, memory cards, filters etc etc.
is this
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:50 AM, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote:
How many people are going to understand that I need a “wooden home goods”
shop tag? There is an old traditional store that sells all the things for
your house - from yard tools, to buckets, to bathtubs - made out of wood by
an expert
Some businesses that were formerly in the film-developing trade have
shifted over into producing prints from digital photos. The
professional-grade color printers produce noticeably better results than
consumer-grade printers do.
--
John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com
Darkness cannot
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On Jun 4, 2015, at 9:18 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 4 June 2015 at 00:59, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
Its been an uphill battle to get even the most basic (read: required)
Japanese mapping conventions accepted. Traffic light
Created/Changed the Wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcamera
I think what we need might be a tag that in general indicates where you
can get prints
__
openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88
wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88
the wiki for shop=photo A shop dealing with photos or video in any way.
humm .. does not necessarily sell cameras ... ?
and 'develop photos'? errr .. that is now a specialist activity given the
reduction in film cameras.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dphoto
Where as a camera
I would say that fits very well with shop=photo, which can be found
further down the page under art, music, hobbies, and to which the
link that you created now redirects (because someone in 2011 already
thought shop=camera would better be shop=photo)
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Warin
Hi,
I've added the tag shop=camera on a node .. reflecting ONE shop I have
mapped.
There are others that I can tag (when I get to them).
They sell cameras, video or still, tripods, memory cards, filters etc etc.
Any idea for a better tag? .. just fishing for ideas at this stage!
I've placed
I note on the shop=photo discussion page
Even though shop=camera redirects here, the description does not
actually include selling cameras (or similar electronic photographic
equipment). So do cameras belong into shop=electronics? Aceman444
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Aceman444
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