Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk tagged on highway=cycleway

2015-01-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
+1

I think this should be tagged with lanes, to be compatible with road lane
tagging:

bicycle:lanes:forward=designated|no
foot:lanes:forward=no|designated

Or if this looks a bit complicated (it does to me) invent a new tag,
something like:

designated:lanes:forward=bicycle|foot

Janko Mihelić

2015-01-01 22:30 GMT+01:00 Hubert :

> +1. I'm also removal. But I can unterstand the idea behind it. However it
> should be discussed some more.
>
> Am 1. Januar 2015 22:09:49 MEZ, schrieb 715371 :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> there is a sentence on
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway
>>
>> which says
>>
>> "It is also possible to use {{Tag|sidewalk|right}}/*=left [on
>> highway=cycleway] to indicate which side of the segregated path
>> pedestrians should walk on (where right/left is relative to the way's
>> direction)."
>>
>> It was originally contributed by ulamm and modified by RobJN after a
>> short discussion (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:RobJN).
>> But this is the opposite of what is written on
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sidewalks
>>
>> "The inclusion of sidewalk information makes it easier to provide
>> effective pedestrian routing, and in particular good narrative
>> descriptions of pedestrian routes along motorised roads. The sidewalk
>> tag is not needed on non-motorised thoroughfares, for example
>> highway=footway/cycleway/path/brideway/track. "
>>
>> I think there better solutions to the problem than ulamm's.
>>
>> If there are no further arguments, I will remove the sentence from the
>> first citation. What is your opinion on that?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Tobias
>>
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Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk tagged on highway=cycleway

2015-01-01 Thread Hubert
+1. I'm also removal. But I can unterstand the idea behind it. However it 
should be discussed some more. 

Am 1. Januar 2015 22:09:49 MEZ, schrieb 715371 :
>Hi,
>
>there is a sentence on
>
>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway
>
>which says
>
>"It is also possible to use {{Tag|sidewalk|right}}/*=left [on
>highway=cycleway] to indicate which side of the segregated path
>pedestrians should walk on (where right/left is relative to the way's
>direction)."
>
>It was originally contributed by ulamm and modified by RobJN after a
>short discussion (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:RobJN).
>But this is the opposite of what is written on
>
>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sidewalks
>
>"The inclusion of sidewalk information makes it easier to provide
>effective pedestrian routing, and in particular good narrative
>descriptions of pedestrian routes along motorised roads. The sidewalk
>tag is not needed on non-motorised thoroughfares, for example
>highway=footway/cycleway/path/brideway/track. "
>
>I think there better solutions to the problem than ulamm's.
>
>If there are no further arguments, I will remove the sentence from the
>first citation. What is your opinion on that?
>
>Cheers
>Tobias
>
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Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk tagged on highway=cycleway

2015-01-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I support revert of ulamm's edit.

2015-01-01 22:09 GMT+01:00 715371 :

> Hi,
>
> there is a sentence on
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway
>
> which says
>
> "It is also possible to use {{Tag|sidewalk|right}}/*=left [on
> highway=cycleway] to indicate which side of the segregated path
> pedestrians should walk on (where right/left is relative to the way's
> direction)."
>
> It was originally contributed by ulamm and modified by RobJN after a
> short discussion (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:RobJN).
> But this is the opposite of what is written on
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sidewalks
>
> "The inclusion of sidewalk information makes it easier to provide
> effective pedestrian routing, and in particular good narrative
> descriptions of pedestrian routes along motorised roads. The sidewalk
> tag is not needed on non-motorised thoroughfares, for example
> highway=footway/cycleway/path/brideway/track. "
>
> I think there better solutions to the problem than ulamm's.
>
> If there are no further arguments, I will remove the sentence from the
> first citation. What is your opinion on that?
>
> Cheers
> Tobias
>
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[Tagging] Sidewalk tagged on highway=cycleway

2015-01-01 Thread 715371
Hi,

there is a sentence on

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway

which says

"It is also possible to use {{Tag|sidewalk|right}}/*=left [on
highway=cycleway] to indicate which side of the segregated path
pedestrians should walk on (where right/left is relative to the way's
direction)."

It was originally contributed by ulamm and modified by RobJN after a
short discussion (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:RobJN).
But this is the opposite of what is written on

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sidewalks

"The inclusion of sidewalk information makes it easier to provide
effective pedestrian routing, and in particular good narrative
descriptions of pedestrian routes along motorised roads. The sidewalk
tag is not needed on non-motorised thoroughfares, for example
highway=footway/cycleway/path/brideway/track. "

I think there better solutions to the problem than ulamm's.

If there are no further arguments, I will remove the sentence from the
first citation. What is your opinion on that?

Cheers
Tobias

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