Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-10 Thread ael
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 01:46:42PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2017-01-09 13:15 GMT+01:00 ael : > (relatively recently). For many years, OSM didn't have a way to map bridges > and was relying on indirect mapping methods (state on a highway or railway > that it runs on a bridge, the bridge=y

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-10 Thread ael
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 01:46:42PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2017-01-09 13:15 GMT+01:00 ael : > > > This thread has reminded me that I have encountered problems with > > mapping disused quarries and surface mining. > > > > The quarries that I have in mind are major geographical features

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-01-09 13:15 GMT+01:00 ael : > This thread has reminded me that I have encountered problems with > mapping disused quarries and surface mining. > > The quarries that I have in mind are major geographical features - they > have not been filled in. I tried tagging them as landuse=quarry and > di

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-10 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 10.01.2017 10:47, Zecke wrote: Artificial rock faces in quarries and open pit mines, called berms, are created due to blasting. The faces are typically inclined 60-70° with drops of max. a few tenth of meters. This fundamental difference might be best taken into account by using man_made=emb

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-10 Thread Volker Schmidt
I have locally many near vertical exposed rock features of which even locals don't know if they are man-made or natural. In reality they are all man-made, but some date probably back to the Roman Empire. With other words, this discussion is sterile. On 10 Jan 2017 10:49 a.m., "Zecke" wrote: > >

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-10 Thread Zecke
Artificial rock faces in quarries and open pit mines, called berms, are created due to blasting. The faces are typically inclined 60-70° with drops of max. a few tenth of meters. This fundamental difference might be best taken into account by using man_made=embankment for these. I have to co

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-10 Thread ksg
> Am 10.01.2017 um 00:04 schrieb Tom Pfeifer : > > They consist of the remaining geological material, which is of natural origin. For the remaining exposed rock we use mainly natural=bare_rock. > > There is a geological cycle as well, with mountains moving up and down, > continents sink or li

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-10 Thread Steve Doerr
On 09/01/2017 20:56, ksg wrote: Am 09.01.2017 um 21:23 schrieb ael : It is perfectly clear in the case of a disused quarry. It is still a quarry. But it is no longer in use. In a few cases it may have a new purpose, but it is still a quarry in any normal sense. No, if there there no more min

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-09 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 09.01.2017 22:56, ksg wrote: Am 09.01.2017 um 22:15 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: On 10-Jan-17 07:56 AM, ksg wrote: You might use man_made=embankment for them. Don’t use natural=cliff, as these features are not of natural origin. The 'natural' key is used for both 'natural' a

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-09 Thread ksg
> Am 09.01.2017 um 22:15 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > On 10-Jan-17 07:56 AM, ksg wrote: >>> >> You might use man_made=embankment for them. Don’t use natural=cliff, as >> these features are not of natural origin. > > The 'natural' key is used for both 'natural' and 'unnatural' obj

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-09 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 09.01.2017 21:23, ael wrote: On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 02:00:58PM +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: On 09.01.2017 13:15, ael wrote: Please do not use "disused=yes" as it is considered troll-tagging, first saying it is simething, and in the next line negating it. I don't think that is a natural interp

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-09 Thread Warin
On 10-Jan-17 07:56 AM, ksg wrote: Am 09.01.2017 um 21:23 schrieb ael : On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 02:00:58PM +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: Please do not use "disused=yes" as it is considered troll-tagging, first saying it is simething, and in the next line negating it. +1 That’s what the life cycle p

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-09 Thread ksg
> Am 09.01.2017 um 21:23 schrieb ael : > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 02:00:58PM +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: >> Please do not use "disused=yes" as it is considered troll-tagging, first >> saying it is simething, and in the next line negating it. +1 That’s what the life cycle prefix is intended for.

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-09 Thread ael
On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 02:00:58PM +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 09.01.2017 13:15, ael wrote: > Please do not use "disused=yes" as it is considered troll-tagging, first > saying it is simething, and in the next line negating it. I don't think that is a natural interpretation. It is perfectly clea

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-09 Thread Warin
On 10-Jan-17 12:00 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: On 09.01.2017 13:15, ael wrote: This thread has reminded me that I have encountered problems with mapping disused quarries and surface mining. The quarries that I have in mind are major geographical features - they have not been filled in. I tried taggi

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-09 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 09.01.2017 13:15, ael wrote: This thread has reminded me that I have encountered problems with mapping disused quarries and surface mining. The quarries that I have in mind are major geographical features - they have not been filled in. I tried tagging them as landuse=quarry and disused=yes.

[Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-09 Thread ael
This thread has reminded me that I have encountered problems with mapping disused quarries and surface mining. The quarries that I have in mind are major geographical features - they have not been filled in. I tried tagging them as landuse=quarry and disused=yes. If landuse really does mean curren