Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-07-01 Thread John Packer
Putting notes on every object armcahir mappers: keep away is just as redundant and less informative than a source tag. I don't like all those source tags, but it addresses a real problem. I meant to say: add a note=* tag explaining the situation. Otherwise it indeed wouldn't help, but when

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-07-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-30 23:17 GMT+02:00 Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com: My issue with source:whatever=* tags is that you need one for every tag to avoid confusion about what the source for a specific tag is and it is a manual entry prone to error. +1, and one for every node (e.g. of a way). Many mappers

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-07-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-01 0:11 GMT+02:00 John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com: (I'm not sure if OSM Messaging is built-in in JOSM, but it could be useful for quick messaging in this kind of case). there is a link: if you hit ctrl+h you'll get the versions of the selected object with clickable usernames.

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-30 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Let us notice that, unlike my message, your replies do not comment the *reasons* for source tags location. I say: * the wiki instructions say to put sources in the objects * it needs fumbling to see changeset sources (is it fair to the author?) * only source in objects can be used in

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-30 Thread Jo
Just like everybody else I started several years ago by adding source tags on the objects themselves. The whole reason why the imports list says source tags belong on the changeset has something to do with an import of millions of buildings in France, each and every one with:

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-30 Thread ael
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 06:40:47PM +0200, Jo wrote: Just like everybody else I started several years ago by adding source tags on the objects themselves. I changed to putting the source on to change sets, but hit a problem with armchair-mappers. I found armchair mappers overwriting carefully

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-30 Thread John Packer
If the tagging of the object is tricky or not obvious, or it is prone to be miscorrected by armchair mappers, it's useful to add a note in the appropriate language with the key note=*. For example, I have added it to part of a street that is used only for parking, and doesn't legally lead

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-30 Thread SomeoneElse
On 30/06/2014 22:17, Tod Fitch wrote: At least in JOSM if you do a ctrl-h on a selected object it shows you the source entry text that given on the change set (if it exists which it usually doesn't on older change sets). If the other editors don't show that, then they should be fixed. For

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-30 Thread bulwersator
gt; I'm not sure if OSM Messaging is built-in in JOSM, but it could be useful for quick messaging in this kind of case No, due to missing API features. All that could be done is checking for unread messages. ___ Tagging mailing list

[Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-26 Thread André Pirard
Hi, I wonder if this phrase without an explanation link http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source contains appropriate instructions (or just press news): *Since the introduction of changesets these tags are often added as changeset http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset tags rather

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-26 Thread Dan S
2014-06-26 12:44 GMT+01:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: Hi, I wonder if this phrase without an explanation link http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source contains appropriate instructions (or just press news): *Since the introduction of changesets these tags are often added

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-26 Thread Jo
I've been reading import proposals on the imports list for a while now and the recommendation I keep seeing there is to add source tags on the changesets, which is what I started since several months now. So now that I'm preparing the osm file for BusCo, I'd prefer to simply add the instruction to

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-26 14:21 GMT+02:00 Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com: When I do edits using multiple sources, it makes a lot of sense to put the source tags on the objects. I have also occasionally used source-tags on the objects in the past, but I have stopped doing it in favour of source-tags on