Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-26 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:47 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 25 Apr 2019, 23:49 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: >> Communities have drawn together to keep a bank, a supermarket and a garage >> going locally. They have also drawn together to keep a doctor. >> They don't draw together for a church. > > Dep

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25 Apr 2019, 23:49 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > > Communities have drawn together to keep a bank, a supermarket and a garage > going locally. They have also drawn together to keep a doctor. > They don't draw together for a church. > Depends on a community. The last one certainly is not true for m

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-25 Thread Warin
On 26/04/19 04:10, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wednesday, 24 April 2019, Warin wrote: On 25/04/19 04:39, Dave F wrote: On 21/04/2019 01:12, Warin wrote: I am all for the introduction of the key education=* It makes sense, adds detail - improves the map data base. True. The one that irks me i

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wednesday, 24 April 2019, Warin wrote: > On 25/04/19 04:39, Dave F wrote: > > > > > > On 21/04/2019 01:12, Warin wrote: > >> > >> > >> I am all for the introduction of the key education=* > >> > >> > >> It makes sense, adds detail - improves the map data base. > > > > True. > > > > The one that

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 23:07, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The same can be said for a pub, restaurant, etc. > They are all commercial enterprises, if they did not make money they > would not exist. > There 'service' to the community is there to help them make money. > Mostly, but

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-24 Thread Warin
On 25/04/19 04:39, Dave F wrote: On 21/04/2019 01:12, Warin wrote: I am all for the introduction of the key education=* It makes sense, adds detail - improves the map data base. True. The one that irks me is amenity=cafe. It isn't there for the benefit of the community; it is a commerc

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-24 Thread Dave F via Tagging
On 21/04/2019 01:12, Warin wrote: I am all for the introduction of the key education=* It makes sense, adds detail - improves the map data base. True. The one that irks me is amenity=cafe. It isn't there for the benefit of the community; it is a commercial enterprise & should be tagged

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-24 Thread Valor Naram
To your 4.: We need to get the developers to change their presets beforehand. Original Message Subject: Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?From: Paul Allen To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" CC: On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 10:16, V

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 10:16, Valor Naram wrote: > > Deprecating "amenity" would hurt because it's a very important key. But I > have some suggestions: > There are cases where amenity is an appropriate tag. Such as for amenities. 1. Keeping the "amenity" wiki page intact. > 2. Creating/extendi

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-24 Thread Valor Naram
tending pages for new keys e.g. Key:education3. Suggesting "education=*" instead of "amenity=education" on the "amenity" wiki page.4. A transition period for changing the database and to aware other mappers of it.---- Original Message ----Subject: Re: [Tagging] Why sh

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-22 Thread 石野貴之
Thank you for the reply. > These difficulties, and opposing ideas on how to deal with existing tags, make it hard to change established tagging schemes. But I am strongly in favour of not establishing new amenity=* for hitherto unmapped facilites, but rather use new tags altogether, whose use can

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-22 Thread Jan S
Am Mo., 22. Apr. 2019 um 01:48 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > > It certainly makes overpass turbo queries a lot simpler and more intuitive > if we can group all > education facilities under education rather than under amenity. Typing > "education=*" is shorter > than "amenity=school or amenity=univer

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 23:42, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: This helps mappers find similar things all under the one key. > If highways were placed under amenity so > amenity=motorway/secondary/primary/residential etc it would make mapping > harder not easier. > It certainly makes overpass

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Warin
In my view introducing an own key for each possibility would be messy. Leaving it how it is now seems the best. Future proposals should just add a value to the "amenity" key Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag? From:

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 15:52, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > In villages and neighborhoods of smaller towns, the school is often > the largest or only public place. > No argument here. In Central and South America, the public school is also often the > place where voting takes place for elections,

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
In villages and neighborhoods of smaller towns, the school is often the largest or only public place. In Central and South America, the public school is also often the place where voting takes place for elections, community meetings happen, and cultural events take place. This is also true of many

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Valor Naram
--- Original Message ----Subject: Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?From: Mateusz Konieczny To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" CC: Apr 21, 2019, 3:55 AM by yumean1...@gmail.com:I think that our discussion about these tagging schemes i

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Apr 21, 2019, 3:55 AM by yumean1...@gmail.com: > I think that our discussion about these tagging schemes is in very slow > progress. In my opinion, a proposal on a new tag like > amenity=educational_services  > is more effective rather than shifting to educational=* tagging schemes. > I agree

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-20 Thread 石野貴之
Thank you for the speedy reply! 2019年4月21日(日) 9:13 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > On 21/04/19 05:31, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Apr 2019 at 19:52, 石野貴之 wrote: > >> >> I don't know the reason why we should not use amenity=* too much. If you >> have time, please let me know. >> >> Lack of

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-20 Thread Warin
On 21/04/19 05:31, Paul Allen wrote: On Sat, 20 Apr 2019 at 19:52, 石野貴之 > wrote: I don't know the reason why we should not use amenity=* too much. If you have time, please let me know. Lack of specificity.  It's nice to be able to categorize things. +1.

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 20 Apr 2019 at 19:52, 石野貴之 wrote: > > I don't know the reason why we should not use amenity=* too much. If you > have time, please let me know. > > Lack of specificity. It's nice to be able to categorize things. Otherwise every physical tag would be natural=* (if beaver damns are natural

[Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-20 Thread 石野貴之
Hello. I am yumean1119 from Japan and mapping mainly around Okayama. Recently, I have surfed some proposal pages about new tagging schems for educational facilities. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Education_2.0 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Educatio