Re: [Tagging] building=entrance
I also support that mass retagging of building=entrance nodes attached to buildings. -- Andrew From: Martin Koppenhoefer Sent: 13 December 2022 00:26 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] building=entrance sent from a phone > On 12 Dec 2022, at 22:13, Marc_marc wrote: > > i dislike the idea to have tag with several meaning depending > if it's on a node or a closed way One could say the distinction is in the meaning, not in the object type, there is a tag that was used in the past on nodes of building outlines, building=entrance, it is deprecated for ages, since then tagged as entrance=* and it is should be hardly confused with building=entrance, which is a regular use of the building tag to specify an entrance building. I think the case is so well defined it would be possible to automatically retag those remaining 2400 building=entrance on nodes that are part of a building area outline to entrance=yes . Or maybe a call to action and manually distinguish between main and yes values? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] building=entrance
sent from a phone > On 12 Dec 2022, at 22:13, Marc_marc wrote: > > i dislike the idea to have tag with several meaning depending > if it's on a node or a closed way One could say the distinction is in the meaning, not in the object type, there is a tag that was used in the past on nodes of building outlines, building=entrance, it is deprecated for ages, since then tagged as entrance=* and it is should be hardly confused with building=entrance, which is a regular use of the building tag to specify an entrance building. I think the case is so well defined it would be possible to automatically retag those remaining 2400 building=entrance on nodes that are part of a building area outline to entrance=yes . Or maybe a call to action and manually distinguish between main and yes values? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] building=entrance
Le 12.12.22 à 20:27, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : Following a JOSM discussion I wanted to ask here, if someone else is using building=entrance to tag entrance buildings. it doesn't look like to be a building but a indoor=* (root ? entrance ?) and sometime a building:part (for 3D tag) i dislike the idea to have tag with several meaning depending if it's on a node or a closed way ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] building=entrance
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 3:51 PM Jmapb wrote: > On 12/12/2022 2:28 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Following a JOSM discussion I wanted to ask here, if someone else is > > using building=entrance to tag entrance buildings. > > > > It is a term that seems well introduced and understandable, so there > > is not much hindering people from using it, just that there was the > > bad practice to use the same tag on nodes for what is now done with > > the "entrance" key. > > sorry, missed the link https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/22570 > > > > any comments on the tag? Someone else using it for buildings? > > Two thoughts offhand: > > 1) I feel pretty strongly that any value of building=* should refer to a > type of building. To me, building=entrance would sound like an attempt > at tagging something similar to building=gatehouse. > > 2) building=* on a node is just fine; we don't always have sufficient > aerial imagery or other data to discern an acceptable footprint. (That's > on a freestanding node of course; building=* on a node that's part of > another building's perimeter would be a problem.) > I seldom if ever use `building=entrance` for anything. Routing and rendering appear to work just fine with `entrance=*`, as on the four entrances to https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1117519651 If this usage is incorrect, then we probably need to raise issues with the various editors, since JOSM at least has never warned me of underspecified tagging on these. -- 73 de ke9tv/2, Kevin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] building=entrance
On 12/12/2022 2:28 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Following a JOSM discussion I wanted to ask here, if someone else is using building=entrance to tag entrance buildings. It is a term that seems well introduced and understandable, so there is not much hindering people from using it, just that there was the bad practice to use the same tag on nodes for what is now done with the "entrance" key. sorry, missed the link https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/22570 any comments on the tag? Someone else using it for buildings? Two thoughts offhand: 1) I feel pretty strongly that any value of building=* should refer to a type of building. To me, building=entrance would sound like an attempt at tagging something similar to building=gatehouse. 2) building=* on a node is just fine; we don't always have sufficient aerial imagery or other data to discern an acceptable footprint. (That's on a freestanding node of course; building=* on a node that's part of another building's perimeter would be a problem.) Cheers, J ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] building=entrance
sorry, missed the link https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/22570 any comments on the tag? Someone else using it for buildings? Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] building=entrance
Following a JOSM discussion I wanted to ask here, if someone else is using building=entrance to tag entrance buildings. It is a term that seems well introduced and understandable, so there is not much hindering people from using it, just that there was the bad practice to use the same tag on nodes for what is now done with the "entrance" key. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
